carriers of GLOCKS

[cwfunrider]

I recently picked up a g19 as my new edc which replaced my pf9. I have read in a few places about the "new York " trigger and wondered if anyone had any personal experience with it? I am accustom to a heavier dao trigger for carry and thought it might not be a bad idea.

Thanks

[BW1911]

Right up front, I will disclose that I do not own a Glock, and do not particularly like shooting them. I did, however, recently spend a weekend training in WV in a stressed combat/CQ type shooting environment and I do pay attention to what others are doing and saying.

One student had a reduced pull trigger on his Glock and was having all sorts of accuracy problems when shooting strings under stress. May have been his experience level or technique, and I THINK he said his trigger was even lighter than the 3.5# or so NY trigger conversion. Anyway, he concluded that he was going to reinstall the original trigger because he was slapping the lighter trigger when under stress. Without seeing any of his results with the original trigger, I have no idea if this was really his issue or not, but I did hear one of the instructors mention that the New York triggers were great for target shooting at paper, but that they were (in his opinion) too light for combat shooting, under stress.

Like I said, not my experience directly, but that class was not a beginner's level class and everyone in that class was a fairly accomplished shooter to even be admitted, so there is one answer, FWIW. If you want to install a lighter trigger, go for it, but if it were me I would bag and tag the original parts and store them away in case you ever decide to revert back to the original configuration. One of the best things about taking a really good course is that you not only get great training, but you also learn pretty quickly what works and what doesn't, gear-wise. There have been students who got tired of malfunctions and have put some guns, holsters, etc., up for sale right after some of the classes I have taken.

[cwfunrider]

Maybe i am remembering what i read incorrectly. I thought the new york trigger was supposed to be a heavier pull from stock. I thought they developed it because when the nypd switched to the glock they were having to many ADs and wanted a more intentional trigger pull.

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[zombiekiller57]

That is correct cwfunrider the NY is. 10.5 lb trigger pull stock is around 5.5

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[jdonovan]

There are 2 NY triggers... NY1 and NY2

Stock pull weight is about 5.0 lbs
NY1 is a variable weight spring starting at 5.5lb and ending at 11lbs
NY2 is a variable weight spring starting at 7.0lb and ending at 11lbs

http://eu.glock.com/english/options_triggerspring.htm

wondered if anyone had any personal experience with it?

You will likely get some VERY strong op pinions on this...

My feelings are leave the stock trigger in and get about 500 rounds downrange before you change anything. This will give you some get used to it time. I personally find the stock trigger fine for my daily use.

[Chasbo00]

A Glock 19 is my primary carry gun and I shoot it in IDPA competition. I've tinkered with the trigger mechanism and other springs over the years and find myself gravitating back to the stock trigger and springs. A lighter trigger is easier to shoot slow fire, but trigger control can be more difficult when shooting very quickly. I've come the conclusion that's it's hard to improve on Glock's stock trigger for a carry gun.

[BW1911]

I did hear one of the instructors mention that the New York triggers were great for target shooting at paper, but that they were (in his opinion) too light for combat shooting, under stress.

my bad... right sentiment, wrong name. I probably misheard the conversation regarding the NY trigger, but I do know this fellow had a lighter than stock trigger pull, and was planning to go back to the heavier stock pull.

[scrubber3]

If you are used to shooting a double action revolver, the NY trigger may suit you as they were designed with the old guys in mind. You know those guys that had to use a revolver back in the day. To me the stock trigger is more than adequate. Like said earlier, put at least 500 rounds down range and see how you like it. Just remember that you always get haters but truth be told there is no more reliable gun than a Glock. At 7 meters I can shoot the nuts off of a gnat with my .45 Glock model 30. Very accurate indeed. You'll find that most non-Glock owners will dis your Glock. Just smile and say okay. Seems every time Glock gets posted on a universal forum it makes the "others" angry. So prepare for the oncoming flames.

[mk4]

i won't dis glocks... i just prefer my sigs.

[VBshooter]

A New York trigger in conjunction with a 3.5 connector yields a firmer and better feeling trigger... I do all my Glocks with that set up and it works great..Many install that set up to lessen the chance of a Glock Foot accident while reholstering..Others to get the firmer feel of a revolver...As suggested , set one up and try it. Do not install just the connector...That will make a too soft trigger///..All you can do is try the setup.. I personally like the NY Set up with the 3.5 connector.

[cwfunrider]

If you are used to shooting a double action revolver, the NY trigger may suit you as they were designed with the old guys in mind. You know those guys that had to use a revolver back in the day. To me the stock trigger is more than adequate. Like said earlier, put at least 500 rounds down range and see how you like it. Just remember that you always get haters but truth be told there is no more reliable gun than a Glock. At 7 meters I can shoot the nuts off of a gnat with my .45 Glock model 30. Very accurate indeed. You'll find that most non-Glock owners will dis your Glock. Just smile and say okay. Seems every time Glock gets posted on a universal forum it makes the "others" angry. So prepare for the oncoming flames.

I'm used to the flames as I own/ owned Taurus and Keltec and carried them both. I'd stand behind either one. I think I'll leave the trigger stock for now I was just string to get a general feel of what others might be doing. The stock trigger is nice. I can some darn nice groups with it.

Thanks for the input.

[grumpyMSG]

You'll find that most non-Glock owners will dis your Glock. Just smile and say okay. Seems every time Glock gets posted on a universal forum it makes the "others" angry. So prepare for the oncoming flames.

I think I can explain your perception. Many Glock owners/ users have a condescending attitude toward other brands of pistols. I won't tell you that Glocks are the worst thing in the world, nor will I brag about "Glock Perfection". I personally view the various manufacturers of firearms as being like the auto companies. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. That said, the video in the opening post of this thread http://vagunforum.net/handguns/this-guy ... 12230.html gives an example of "Glock Perfection" attitude. If I swapped Glock and 1911 in the video, would it irritate Glock owners? If many of the Glock owners took an attitude like:

i won't dis glocks... i just prefer my sigs.

They wouldn't get the "Dis'".

Back on topic, I always recommend trying it the way it is first, get some rounds through it and then try tweaking it if you like.

[Reverenddel]

"My feelings are leave the stock trigger in and get about 500 rounds downrange before you change anything."-jdonovan.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Don't change ANYTHING on a new gun until you get familiar.