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not sure about the transferability of the factory warranty. does gt offer any store warranty/exchange policy in case you find something after purchasing?
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I've bought several guns from Green Top - I used to live within a half mile of the place. Now I'm about 20 minutes away.

Anyhow, I bought at least one used gun from them and never have had a problem. I like doing business with those guys, and I would feel confident about buying from them. It's been my experience that they're straight up good guys.
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Well, I put the Bodyguard on hold and went back today at lunch to take a look at it. The manager of the gun counter was familar with it. Turns out a lady bought it new and returned it/sold it back a week or so later saying she decided she didn't want to own a gun. So if it's been shot at all, it hasn't been much. I guess I'm glad my background check was delayed. We'll see how long it takes this time, and whether or not the dealer at the gun show called VA State Police to cancel the sale.

I'm willing to wait. I got a practically brand new gun for $80 less than they sell it new and $50 less than the lowest price I've seen it anywhere around here.

So, what to do with that extra $80 I was planning to spend on it? Desantis Nemesis? Extra mag? Several boxes of .380?
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ammo.... =)
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Sorry to bring this post back up, but I'm interested hearing the rest of the story. How long was the wait for the OPs background check? Did he get his Bodyguard? Does he like it? I'm super interested! Lol

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The dealer at the gun show cancelled the sale. I was still delayed on the check at Green Top but got it the next day. The Bodyguard is great. So great, I may sell it. I like it well enough but after shooting it, I find that I'm better with a j frame. So now I'm on to the next great thing I guess. You interested in a Bodyguard .380?

I'm one of those poor guys that wants to own everything. Eventually I will, it will just won't be all at the same time.
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Glad you finally got your bodyguard. I actually just got a j frame, nice little piece. If your interested in selling or trading, there is a gun show this weekend in Hampton at the convention center. I plan on going...maybe I'll see you there?

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Ok I need you guys and gals help!! I hate that they dont explain to you what your rights are if your convictions are vacated and charges dismissed. So people take a chance when going on because you never know the outcome or how to answer these questions the correct way so that you can proceed to purchase so that you can protect yourself and family....anyhow this is my situation, I dont know if this is similar but I felt Like i needed to ask because its 2012 and with this COMMONWEALTH ass state our laws change daily!! Ok so I am convicted for a check I clearly didnt write and didnt have a chance to dispute; agreement came upon by courts and myself along with my attorney and the state attorney was to pay it off and they would VACATE the finding of guilt and dismiss the charges. A few days ago I checked my court records and it still said the case was active. I check a few days later and its status changed to Dismissal from Active. So the question is how do I now answer the questions asked on the ELIGIBILITY FORM because you know if you check a yes past a certain point that wont sell you the handgun or if you check one of those boxes wrong then you are now a felon. Please help so that I can walk in and fill this paperwork out correctly and can possibly walk out with protection I seek for me and my family. I know you guys arent lawyers but maybe some of you been in the situation and can guide me along or know what to do. I am not trying to get over but I am trying to legally answer these questions the right way according to MY SITUATION as explained above. If you can help i gladly appreciate it!!
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what was the statute listed for the charge?
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mk4 wrote:what was the statute listed for the charge?
what do you mean? all i know is i did what the told me which was just pay it off but it was reduced down to misdemeanor until vacated and dismissed which happened (judge granted joint motion to vacate and dismiss on Friday Feb 10, 2012) and it was effective in the system Friday Feb 17 (when she entered it)....you have to put it all in dummy terms cuz i dont know what statute is honestly...this is my first time ever being in trouble for anything
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is there a statute code section listed on a summons or other documents?
something like 18.2-308 (ex. concealed weapon code section).
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18.2-181 Misdemeanor
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ok.
so which question # on which form (atf 4473 or state form?) are you trying to answer correctly?



btw, here's the code section:
(http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... d+18.2-181)

§ 18.2-181. Issuing bad checks, etc., larceny.

Any person who, with intent to defraud, shall make or draw or utter or deliver any check, draft, or order for the payment of money, upon any bank, banking institution, trust company, or other depository, knowing, at the time of such making, drawing, uttering or delivering, that the maker or drawer has not sufficient funds in, or credit with, such bank, banking institution, trust company, or other depository, for the payment of such check, draft or order, although no express representation is made in reference thereto, shall be guilty of larceny; and, if this check, draft, or order has a represented value of $200 or more, such person shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony. In cases in which such value is less than $200, the person shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

The word "credit" as used herein, shall be construed to mean any arrangement or understanding with the bank, trust company, or other depository for the payment of such check, draft or order.

Any person making, drawing, uttering or delivering any such check, draft or order in payment as a present consideration for goods or services for the purposes set out in this section shall be guilty as provided herein.

(Code 1950, § 6.1-115; 1966, c. 584; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1978, c. 791; 1981, c. 230.)
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lol all of them on atf 4473 and i havent seen the state form...this the form the dude told me in the store if i mark yes to anything he cant sell me poop (when the case was in pending status) but I want to now answer this the way I should since the case was vacated/dismissed
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well, the atf form 4473 can be downloaded here:
http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

i can't find the vsp form anywhere, but here's a link:
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Pur ... ility.shtm
that might answer some purchase eligibility questions.

there seem to be a number of details in your situation that raise questions, and i am not a lawyer so it would not be legal for me to give any legal advice. there are a few attorneys that frequent this forum, so one may stop in and give an opinion, but barring that, you should probably get your own official advice before risking a misstatement on one of the forms and suffering the potential consequences.

sorry to not be more help.
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