Halal Turkeys

[TheGodfather]

Customer service representatives from Butterball, one of America's most popular Turkey brands, confirmed to WND that the company's whole turkeys are – without being labeled as such – slaughtered according to Islamic "halal" standards.

"Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus and the jugular vein and letting the blood drain out while saying, 'Bismillah allahu akbar' – 'in the name of Allah the greatest,'"


Read more: Has your Thanksgiving turkey been sacrificed to idols? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=370177#ixzz1eS9v7Uru

A relative of mine called customer service and they confirmed that our turkey was a halal turkey. It's going back today.

[dorminWS]

Customer service representatives from Butterball, one of America's most popular Turkey brands, confirmed to WND that the company's whole turkeys are – without being labeled as such – slaughtered according to Islamic "halal" standards.

"Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus and the jugular vein and letting the blood drain out while saying, 'Bismillah allahu akbar' – 'in the name of Allah the greatest,'"


Read more: Has your Thanksgiving turkey been sacrificed to idols? http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=370177#ixzz1eS9v7Uru

A relative of mine called customer service and they confirmed that our turkey was a halal turkey. It's going back today.

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What's the big deal? Have the last laugh. Stuff it with pork sausage dressing.

[TheGodfather]

What's the big deal?

After halal turkeys say "Gallah, Gallah, Gallah", they tend to do this:

[Reverenddel]

"What's the big deal? Have the last laugh. Stuff it with pork sausage dressing."

FOR THA' FRAKIN' WIN! RIGHT THERE!

[TheGodfather]

What's the big deal? Have the last laugh. Stuff it with pork sausage dressing.

You think pouring dressing on it gives you the last laugh?

You seem to forget that you just gave money to a company that is now catering to a "religion" that wants us and our way of life dead.

[dorminWS]

What's the big deal? Have the last laugh. Stuff it with pork sausage dressing.

You think pouring dressing on it gives you the last laugh?

You seem to forget that you just gave money to a company that is now catering to a "religion" that wants us and our way of life dead.

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If it's not too much trouble, I'd deal around them. But failing in that, I'd do what I said. Can't let those folks have undue influence on my life. That includes too much rearrangement of things to punish Butterball. Besides, the truth is my wife does as she damn well pleases at the grocery store no matter WHAT I think/say/do.

[TheGodfather]

If it's not too much trouble, I'd deal around them. But failing in that, I'd do what I said. Can't let those folks have undue influence on my life. That includes too much rearrangement of things to punish Butterball. Besides, the truth is my wife does as she damn well pleases at the grocery store no matter WHAT I think/say/do.

What you do is your choice. Just know that Halal food is more than just "muslim food" - it is a part of Sharia law. Ask yourself how much of Sharia law you will accept in order for your life to not be inconvenienced. When it comes to Sharia law, you have to draw a line somewhere. Otherwise the only "convenient" choice you will eventually have left is to follow ALL of Sharia law.

[Kreutz]

Meanwhile, over in reality....halal is identical to kosher slaughter. Also, the idea that the mass production meat industry, purely driven by speed and prophets (pun intended), has its $2.00/hour Guatemalan actually saying "Bismillah allahu akbar" for every single turkey is laughable.

This whole thing came from some stupid right-tard blogger named Pamela Geller.

You seem to forget that you just gave money to a company that is now catering to a "religion" that wants us and our way of life dead.

Thats what you get from this? Really? I get two things:

1) Butterball is a business and wants to make a profit. Expanding its customer base can help them. Imagine that.

2) The fact there is even significant enough demand for halal turkey shows enough Muslims want to celebrate Thanksgiving. i.e. they are trying to assimilate and are in fact the opposite of your asinine assumption. Imagine that.

[Jakeiscrazy]

I don't believe it. Just I don't know it seems really far fetched.

[Kreutz]

I don't believe it. Just I don't know it seems really far fetched.

They are halal...just as they're simultaneously kosher. The technique is identical; both use a very sharp knife and sever the throat, and then allow all blood to drain out.

The reason this doesn't equal a Muslim takeover of Thanksgiving is that when you buy a food labeled kosher or halal (especially a mass produced one) its just certifying it was done according to the technique, few if any major food makers would have a rabbi or imam on staff to individually handle every food item.

[Riposite]

actually don't halal and Kosher also have cleanliness conditions for the raising on the animals pre-slaughter too? I remember growing up the kosher duck farm in center moriches was way cleaner and did not admit noxious odors or have massive rat infestations like the non kosher ones (thinking especially of the one in East Patchogue)

I've always thought Kosher and Halal = cleaner

[OakRidgeStars]

"What's the big deal? Have the last laugh. Stuff it with pork sausage dressing."

FOR THA' FRAKIN' WIN! RIGHT THERE!

Perfect

[fireman836]

Found in Halal Food Production; http://www.halalrc.org/images/Research% ... 20Book.pdf

The Slaughter Person
The person performing the act of dhabh must be of sound mind and an adult
Muslim. The person can be of either sex. If a person lacks or loses the competence through intoxication or loss of mental abilities, he or she may not perform halal slaughter. The meat of an animal killed by an idolater, a nonbeliever, or someone who has apostatized from Islam is not acceptable.

So are all Butterball Turkeys slatered by a devout muslum? Are Butterball turkeys Kosher also?
In Kosher Food Production Regulations;

It is important for kosher food products to have a hekhsher (also spelled hechsher), or mark of rabbinic supervision. Kosher food producers should have their production methods supervised by a qualified rabbinical overseer, so that the consumer can be confident that all kosher rules have been observed.

So does Butterball have a Rabbi oversee the muslum doing the halal?

[gunderwood]

What's the big deal?

After halal turkeys say "Gallah, Gallah, Gallah", they tend to do this:

Ah, meat rain.

[Palladin]

I'm growin my own.

[TheGodfather]

I've always thought Kosher and Halal = cleaner

Kosher vs. Halal is a horrible comparison. Last time I checked, the Jews aren't slaughtering everyone that isn't like them and attempting world domination. If you truly understand Islam, only then will you understand why it's important to take a strong stand against issues like these that appear to some as trivial. Islamic domination of countries too strong to be conquered by invasion is a slow but well thought out process. It's like boiling a frog - we don't jump out when the water warms slowly. By the time we figure out we're getting cooked, it's too late.

[Kreutz]

I've always thought Kosher and Halal = cleaner

Kosher vs. Halal is a horrible comparison. Last time I checked, the Jews aren't slaughtering everyone that isn't like them and attempting world domination.

Most paranoid nutjobs typically pin the world domination accusation on the jews, I commend you sir for taking a brave stand against that stereotypical slander and instead slandering a slightly different group of semites.

If I wore a hat I'd be tipping it right now.

[dorminWS]

Well, I reckon ole Kreutz has a point, even if his way of making it is about as smooth as sandpaper toilet tissue.

The way I understand it, there's several brands of Islam. They interpret their Holy Bokk and doctrine differently. Some of them appear to be moderate. Extremists of all stripes (but particularly, at this time in history, Islamic extremists) are the enemy freedom and tolerance. I know some folks who profess to be Christians whose stances on other religions (and even other sects of Christians) scare the bejesus out of me. Godfather has most of it right, in my opinion. But he's got a slight problem with target acquisition, IMHO. No disrespect intended. That's the thing about religion. No way to know objectively for sure who's right, because it's a matter of faith.

[TheGodfather]

Well, I reckon ole Kreutz has a point, even if his way of making it is about as smooth as sandpaper toilet tissue.

I got tired of feeding that lying troll a while ago. He's been on my Ignore List for at least a month now. I don't see what he says, nor do I care.

The way I understand it, there's several brands of Islam.

Sorry, but there's only one *brand of Islam. They all believe the same thing and have the same goal - they just act differently depending on their situation and strength of numbers. I've explained and provided evidence of this in other threads.


*Yes, they have varying beliefs about how strict they should be about dress codes, etc...but their overall "brand" of being a "religion" with the ultimate goal of world dominance and giving people no other choice than to be muslim or die is the thing they all agree on 100%.

[mamabearCali]

Really--turkeys have to controversial..... I have no idea of the method of slaughter for the turkey that is going on my table. Truth be told I really don't care so much so long as they did not poison it to death (and then me in the process). If it is a kosher turkey or a halal turkey--good for it--it is still going to be soaked, stuffed, roasted and eaten. I am thankful for the turkey and for the provision of it by my creator.