Ann Coulters Take on the Cain Affair

[SHMIV]

I realize that there are those who are not too fond of Miss Ann, but she does have a habit of making some valid points.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-11-30.html

In this article, she addresses the scandal surrounding Herman Cain, and expands upon some points that I have made myself, while engaged in political conversation.

[davasmith]

I'll play devils advocate here and say that cain is human and has made mistakes in the past and probably yesterday too. This however does not sway my opinion on his ability to lead this country better than current admin is. He has a past, cry me a river who doesn't? We are looking for someone who has a plan and will know how to implement it come hell or high water. I still like cain for president. I just wish he'd come clean so the country can move on instead of wallowing in all the he said she said crap. Has anyone else unveiled a viable "plan" to help the American people and not just the damn unions? If so I'm listening.

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[TheGodfather]

Great article. One reason Herman Cain is the best choice is because the Dems are scared of him most. There's a reason they're focusing their smear campaign on him more than anyone else.

[OakRidgeStars]

The reports of alleged affairs and improper behavior, whether true or not, have destroyed any chance he had of becoming the Republican nominee. I'm taking bets that he will make an announcement sometime this weekend.

It's a two horse race to the primaries now.

[mamabearCali]

It really does stink that he is being drummed out of the race. He was a good player and had wonderful points and ideas. It would have been nice in some ways to have a true outsider in the white house. I think we though are down to Gingrich and Romney. Of the two Gingrich has been better on 2nd amendment issues (as far as I know that is).

[Jakeiscrazy]

He's gonna drop on his own. http://articles.boston.com/2011-11-30/n ... ccusations

[Kreutz]

Speaking of blind alleys, "Also, she admitted she knew Obama's dirty tricks specialist, David Axelrod, from living in the same building with him. "

I once met and briefly chit chatted with Charles Schumer at some veterans shindig in NY, am I a gun grabber? Bit of a stretch to assume a personal relationship based on the fact she lived in the same building with the A-rod.

However, the fact she (and the other allegedly harassed woman) received pay outs from Cains employer (which he claimed to not remember until magically the day after they went public) does seem relevant.

I know the conservatives were creaming themselves they had themselves a great black hope (a shabbos schwoogie if you will), but the guy never had a chance. Separating even the significant racial demographic issues, Obama would tear the dude apart in debates (Cain is a stumbler, not as bad as Perry, but still bad).

Like it or not (most seem to have chosen "not") only the Romney-bot 3000 is intelligent and polished enough to debate the Obamanator. Even Ron Paul, whom I like personally wouldnt do well in a head to head debate, Obama is a very slick talker, like Clinton.

[SHMIV]

I've been aware of Herman Cain for several years. I know that I've read at least one of his books. And, I was really excited that he was making a run.

Personally, I don't believe any of his accusers to be credible; that, and there is a lack of actual evidence. I'm rather disappointed in the whole thing.

On a side note, I dis-like Gingrich and Romney equally.

[SHMIV]

I once met and briefly chit chatted with Charles Schumer at some veterans shindig in NY, am I a gun grabber? Bit of a stretch to assume a personal relationship based on the fact she lived in the same building with the A-rod.

Good point. And, that is why I take Ann Coulter with a grain of salt. I like reading her points of view, but she will make those little stretches sometimes, won't she? Also, she seems to have something against Southerners, in general.

[OakRidgeStars]

Looks like the Cain train is scheduled to pull into the station sometime tomorrow.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12 ... igns-fate/

[mamabearCali]

I am sure this will all be moot soon enough. My DH and I were talking about the $$ last night and the fact that his wife did not know about the $$ going out. Now Chris and I don't make anywhere near as much as I am sure they did at the time. However we went over what we give out in charity on a monthly basis and I either did not know about 1/4 of it and 1/4 I knew we gave $$ to but did not know how much, the other 1/2 I knew about. I don't run the finances of the house. So I know I should spend about X on household supplies, and if I need to spend more I need to let Chris know. It just works better in our house for us to do it that way (anything with more than one head is a monster!). So if they had an arrangement like that it is not surprising at all that she did not know about some of the money coming and going.

If he is innocent of all of this it really really stinks that he and his family has been put through all of that.

[SHMIV]

Many marriages work that way. My mother doesn't know everything my father spends money on. At the time that he was doing it, she wasn't aware of the money my father spent to provide his employees with a place to live. Apparently, my father had hired a couple of guys that needed a second chance, and he did what he could to help them.

Had someone wanted to damage my father, pulling some hotel records would not have been hard, and it could have been twisted to look like something that it wasn't.

I suppose that this is why the Bible warns to avoid even the appearance of evil.

[OakRidgeStars]

Update: 1:50pm today

The Cain train has rolled to a stop. All aboard the Newt Express

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 ... -campaign/

[TheGodfather]

The Cain train has rolled to a stop.

He'll be the VP of whomever he endorses.

[SHMIV]

I wouldn't say that the train has stopped rolling; it's just changed course. At any rate, I would hope that Cain doesn't choose to fade away.

It does sadden me, though, this series of events. I was rather excited about the notion of a Cain presidency.

[gatlingun6]

Great article. One reason Herman Cain is the best choice is because the Dems are scared of him most. There's a reason they're focusing their smear campaign on him more than anyone else.

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Lol Godfather surely you jest. Herman Cain is probably the least informed person to ever run for President. His 9-9-9 plan, or was it 9-0-9, or was that 9-0-0, even he didn't seem to know what it was, would be an economic disaster, about 10.0 on the Richter Scale. If the Bush tax cuts put us in an economic hole that we won't climb out of until they are gone; Cain's plan would have sunk the good ship U.S.A for good.

I will give Cain credit for one thing tho. He was supremely confident and even arrogant that his ignorance of world affairs was an asset. Rarely have I seen anyone so proud of knowing so little.

The fact is, not even Herman Cain thought he was really running for President. He never had a real organization in any of the key primary states. His actions show that he was on a glorified book signing tour. And you know what? It succeeded, probably beyond his wildest imagination. What's the line on whether he keeps the money that people donated to his campaign?

Myself, I'm going to miss the Hermanator at the debates. His entertainment value was off the charts. No way the Democrats wanted to see the Hermanator drop out. The only ones who would be easier to beat than Cain are the two Homophobes Santorum and Bachmann. The funny thing about Bachmann is when she drops all the homophobic talk and the American Affordable Health Care Act histrionics she comes across as one who can reason rather well. The way she schooled Rick Perry on foreign policy at the last debate was priceless. Ahhhh then there is Rick Perry. One need say nothing else.

The people who were actually afraid of Cain are the Republican elite. They are the ones who orchestrated his downfall. Once it became clear that the base was about to go off the reservation and defy them by supporting Cain, Cain had to go. The Republican elite are behind Mittens, and they damn well expect the base to fall in line and anoint their chosen one, as the base usually does.

Btw The elite couldn't care less whether Mittens wins or loses Iowa, those caucuses are meaningless in the long run.

Respectfully
Gat6

[gatlingun6]

I'll play devils advocate here and say that cain is human and has made mistakes in the past and probably yesterday too. This however does not sway my opinion on his ability to lead this country better than current admin is. He has a past, cry me a river who doesn't? We are looking for someone who has a plan and will know how to implement it come hell or high water. I still like cain for president. I just wish he'd come clean so the country can move on instead of wallowing in all the he said she said crap. Has anyone else unveiled a viable "plan" to help the American people and not just the damn unions? If so I'm listening.

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You mean American people and unions are mutually exclusive? Unions are nothing more than a sub-set of the American people. I truly do not understand this animosity, indeed hostility towards fire fighters, EMTs, nurses, police, school teachers, prison guards, pilots, hotel maids, coal miners, truck drivers, construction workers, electricians, etc.

Does anyone really want to go back to how it was before unions came into existence?

Gat6

[Kreutz]

Does anyone really want to go back to how it was before unions came into existence?

Gat6

Damn right I do!



Did I say it was break time Little Timmy?! Stop leaning your rickets ridden body on that mine cart and get back into those coal seams!

[BW1911]

... If the Bush tax cuts put us in an economic hole that we won't climb out of until they are gone...

Many would not concede this point without much more in-depth discussion. Some evidence, or a link to a credible article, that the Republican establishment drove Cain out would be useful when making that particular assertion. Could be true... maybe not... but it's just your narrative until then.

Cheers

[BW1911]

You mean American people and unions are mutually exclusive? Unions are nothing more than a sub-set of the American people. I truly do not understand this animosity, indeed hostility towards fire fighters, EMTs, nurses, police, school teachers, prison guards, pilots, hotel maids, coal miners, truck drivers, construction workers, electricians, etc.

Does anyone really want to go back to how it was before unions came into existence?

Gat6

The honest, working union members who don't resort to violence and sabotage are just a subset of the total union experience, too. TWA used to have to move all their admin employees away from the windows facing the highway during IAM labor negotiations in the 1970's, because SOMEONE kept driving up and down the highway taking pot shots at the admin building with a .30-06. More recently, the same types of neanderthal behavior occurred when Verizon went on strike and SOMEONE sabotaged equipment at multiple sites, and even more neanderthal behavior in evidence at the BOA executives HOME when buses of union protesters showed up on his lawn to terrorize his kid, who was home alone. I won't even start on SEIU intimidation, beatdowns, and election behaviors or the Okupas movement re-branded as Occupy Whatever...

So, yeah, I support the honest folks you mentioned, but they are members of unions... they are not THE UNION, with its agendas and overpaid bosses and unethical practices.