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Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:50:48
by allingeneral
We get it. Linux is just for nerds. Not mere nerds—we're all nerds—Linux nerds. It's a hobbyist OS for contrarians. It's an antique. An oddity. Pointless. Right? Very, very wrong. Happy birthday, Linux—let's celebrate you like we should

Linux started off humbly enough—just some guy, some programmer's side project. A blip on a niche usenet group typed by Linus Torvalds, 20 years ago today:
Linus Torvalds wrote: August 25th 1991 - Linus posted the following to comp.os.minix (a usenet newsgroup):
I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things).

I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40), and things seem to work.
This implies that I'll get something practical within a few months, and
I'd like to know what features most people would want. Any suggestions
are welcome, but I won't promise I'll implement them :-)

Linus (torvalds@kruuna.helsinki.fi)

PS. Yes – it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs.
It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably never
will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's all I have :-(.
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Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:54:24
by allingeneral
My first kernel build was version 2.0.36 in early 1998. Don't mess with the l33th4x0r!

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:57:11
by OakRidgeStars
Penguins rock :clap:

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:38:32
by gunderwood
:clap:

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:41:49
by Hiwaytahell
NeRds are cOol i is one.

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:53:27
by Jakeiscrazy
20 years and they still can't get it to catch on.................

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:53:54
by ShadowByte
For my first Slackware install, I had to borrow a SCSI CD drive to install it, and then had to compile the latest kernel at the time to get IDE CD ROM support so I could use my own cd drive.

That was a scary thought back then, compiling the kernel and rebooting, praying you selected the right stuff and the system booted properly so you didn't have to waste another hour or two recompiling :) Good times...

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:56:19
by allingeneral
Jakeiscrazy wrote:20 years and they still can't get it to catch on.................
:fireright: FLAMEBAIT! :fireleft:

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 07:59:11
by allingeneral
ShadowByte wrote:For my first Slackware install, I had to borrow a SCSI CD drive to install it, and then had to compile the latest kernel at the time to get IDE CD ROM support so I could use my own cd drive.

That was a scary thought back then, compiling the kernel and rebooting, praying you selected the right stuff and the system booted properly so you didn't have to waste another hour or two recompiling :) Good times...
I was always messing with trying to compile kernel modules so that I could have a lean, mean optimized kernel. Back in those days, size really did matter!

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:23:56
by Reverenddel
WOW! So when is the next Star Trek convention? Just asking... HAHAHAH

KIDDING! JOKE! HA-HA!

I wish Linux WOULD catch on! Teach Bill Gates some friggin' MANNERS!

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 11:09:41
by meangene
20 years and they still can't get it to catch on
I think it's caught on more than people realize; a lot of stuff uses a Linux kernel but the user rarely interacts with Linux directly.

For example, all Android phones use Linux kernels and I think I read an estimate the other day that 60 million Android phones have been sold so far.

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:03:02
by suburbanredneck
Wow... never thought there would be a linux thread on a forum like this! Agree - linux has come a long way... maybe not so much on the desktop front, but its hiding in a lot of places that people don't realize.

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:16:55
by KaosDad
Linux has caught on - look at RedHat, SUSE and CentOS. RedHat alone finally pushed Linux into the data center. When ServerVault sold WIndows had finally dropped to below 50% of our installed base with *NIX making the majority. Of that majority fully half was Linux of some flavor.

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 12:41:03
by gunderwood
meangene wrote:
20 years and they still can't get it to catch on
I think it's caught on more than people realize; a lot of stuff uses a Linux kernel but the user rarely interacts with Linux directly.

For example, all Android phones use Linux kernels and I think I read an estimate the other day that 60 million Android phones have been sold so far.
+1

Nearly every embedded device you buy has some Linux/BSD heritage. Heavily modified sure. There's a bit in real time software, but not usually. Critical servers, you bet!

Wikipedia
Linux distributions have long been used as server operating systems, and have risen to prominence in that area; Netcraft reported in September 2006 that eight of the ten most reliable internet hosting companies ran Linux distributions on their web servers.[67] Since June 2008, Linux distributions represented five of the top ten, FreeBSD three of ten, and Microsoft two of ten;[68] since February 2010, Linux distributions represented six of the top ten, FreeBSD two of ten, and Microsoft one of ten.[69]
In September 2008 Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer admitted that 60% of web-servers run Linux versus 40% that run Windows Server.[81]

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 13:33:16
by OakRidgeStars
meangene wrote:I think it's caught on more than people realize; a lot of stuff uses a Linux kernel but the user rarely interacts with Linux directly.

For example, all Android phones use Linux kernels and I think I read an estimate the other day that 60 million Android phones have been sold so far.
D R O I D :first:

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 23:18:37
by TBob
Linux is everywhere - appliances, most web servers, cell phones (Android), super computers, etc. Even the evil Apple empire has a variation of Linux under its newer desktop operating systems. Linux is surreptitiously taking over the world, and rightly so. Free, as in free beer.

Happy birthday to the Penguin! :wish:

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 00:02:39
by OleMan
Oh yes, Linux became 'mature' and 'main stream' several years ago. So far as I know, it runs on most every common hardware processor type, small or large, including IBM and Unisys mainframes. A large mainframe can run hundreds or thousands of Linux occurences along with other workloads. For some installations, Linux is a world beater at removing repetitive workloads from larger systems - in addition to it's strengths for other purposes.

In my career (now retired), I sometimes had to counter prejudices against the proper type and size of system and operating system, and Linux encountered that but overcame it just because it is good for a lot of usages.

Oleman

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:20:38
by marcbdc
This is amazing. I did not expect so many likeminded people regarding computers on here.

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 08:38:23
by TBob
Just demonstrates the high quality of membership here.

Re: Linux Turns 20 Today—And Shut Up, Yes, It Still Matters

Posted: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 16:43:08
by VAman
I always liked Linux. I ran Red Hat for a while 7 or 8 years ago, but I haven't messed with it much since. I probably should try it out again and see how I like it.