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Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:41:45
by seeknulfind
That was one question on a medical form for a pediatrician.
My question is... what are we coming to?
Okay, I have another question... does this question (Is there guns in the home?) suggest there is something wrong with such a home?
What do you think?
Andy
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:45:17
by Jakeiscrazy
That's a ridiculous question and IIRC some states don't allow you to ask that.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:56:23
by SHMIV
That's a question to leave blank. If they say anything about it, inform them that the question is irrelevant, and none of their damn business.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:16:31
by allingeneral
After filling out the form (and leaving that one blank) take the form up to the receptionist, then on your way back to your seat in the waiting room, carefully transition to Open Carry so that your sidearm can be seen when you are called back to have your child looked at.

Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:34:16
by SHMIV
I have heard of people having problems when answering that question in the affirmative. I seem to recall reading about a family who suddenly began getting harassed by child protective services on account of a similar question on a similar form. I wish I could remember where I heard about it; I'd post a link.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:42:08
by gunderwood
SHMIV wrote:That's a question to leave blank. If they say anything about it, inform them that the question is irrelevant, and none of their damn business.
Which is almost as good as answering it in the affirmative. Most non-firearm owners won't think twice about answering no.
I'd find another doctor.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:57:34
by SHMIV
I did find one story about this; though I don't believe it's the same thing that I'd originally heard about:
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/10/08/is ... py-on-you/
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:05:09
by mamabearCali
Time for a new ped. I don't answer questions like that. You could just answer no and move on--yep it is lying, but lying to a Dr (at least for the moment) is not a crime. It has 0 to do with what they are treating your child for so you can say no and move on or you can leave it blank. Or you can find a new ped.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:20:00
by CCFan
So theoretically speaking, if one answers affirmative to this question and child protective services knocks on the door, what happens if one of the parents has a badge and is required to carry a firearm as part of their daily duty and CPS had nothing more than a "Yes" check-mark to stand on?

Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 00:43:48
by SHMIV
CCFan wrote:So theoretically speaking, if one answers affirmative to this question and child protective services knocks on the door, what happens if one of the parents has a badge and is required to carry a firearm as part of their daily duty and CPS had nothing more than a "Yes" check-mark to stand on?

Then they ignore you and move on, I suppose. Or maybe the case worker pushes it and loses their job, lol.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:04:06
by Tweaker
I OC in the doctors office so that pretty much leaves that question superfluous.
It was FL that just recently put forth a bill to make it against the law for Drs. to ask this. Much libtard handwringing and "itsferthechillens" and eeevil NRA apoplexy ensued.
Then it passed as I recall.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 01:24:27
by Diomed
gunderwood wrote:I'd find another doctor.
I think - though not being up on pediatric stuff I can't claim to know with any certainty - that the guns question is considered part of the standard of care. Any doc who doesn't follow the standard of care is easy pickings for malpractice suits, so, as a practical matter, you're not going to find one who omits the question.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 02:46:32
by AlanM
It's against the law to ask that question in Florida now.
Do a Google search on "Florida gun law pediatrician". You'll find mostly MSM blissninny articles but it's possible to find bloggers and pro-gun forums discussing this.
IIRC, the question was originally recommended by the American Association of Pediatricians.
My answer to that would be MYOB.
If the doctor pursued it I would ask him if he was a certified NRA safety instructor. If he said no I would tell him to stay out of areas where he has no expertise.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 06:33:17
by wpoppert
My kid recently had a physical for school. The pediatrician didn't ask if we had guns in the home, but did hand me a brochure from the American Association of Pediatricians that said that I should get rid of any guns I have, or at least keep the ammo locked far away from the locked firearms. I immediately threw it away. Even if I got rid of MY guns, my son would never forgive me if I got rid of HIS!

Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:06:33
by frankD
What the frack??? I'd definitely transition to open carry when I took it up to the receptionist and politely asked why the question was on the form.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:27:53
by Reverenddel
"I'd find another doctor"
Agreed... As to being "Standard Care", I'd interview the Doctor LONG before I brought the child in, and looked at the forms.
That's the advantage of going to a doctor set in a rural/farming community... They don't HAVE to ask, and once more, THEY DO NOT CARE!!!
As to the "brochure" saying to dump firearms? I would counter with a brochure showing the EDDIE EAGLE program, and tell him to "educate" him/her self before they start injecting themselves into areas for which they're NOT trained.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:22:47
by rod
http://www.2ampd.net/Articles/horn2/Fir ... 20Form.pdf
Hand your Dr this form when they ask about firearms in the house.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:04:44
by Reverenddel
Oh...that form is GOOOOOODDD! (evil laugh) Yeah... I need to make copies of that...
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 12:30:22
by skeeterss0
damn, I'm at work and can't see the form....I'll look again once I get home.
I recently had a home inspection form Portsmouth Child Protective Services (we were getting custody of our grandchild). During the home inspection I was asked if I have any guns in the house. I believe they wanted to ensure they were securly locked up and the children couldn't get to them. Anyways I answered No guns, and they moved on. Whose to say I didn't purchase the guns the day after they inspected.
Re: Are there guns in the home?
Posted: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:29:51
by wylde007
They ask and I generally leave it blank. A nurse asked most recently at my infant's 1 week checkup. As my wife answered 'Yes' I answered 'That's none of your business'.
The attendant nurse didn't even flinch, I doubt it means anything.