Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

1. Silencers are legal in Virginia.
2. Having a silencer (or other NFA item) does not allow the police, FBI, ATF, men in black to violate your Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures.
3. Silencers do not sound like they do on TV/movies, but then again, most guns don't sound that way either.
4. Silencers are FUN!

Purchasing a silencer in Virginia is a simple process. We here at Immortal Arms pride ourselves on our knowledge of the "system" and making your silencer purchase as easy as possible. We are authorized dealers for just about every "can" made in the US.

Please post any questions you may have or myths you have heard and we will answer/debunk them.

ImmortalArms wrote:3. Silencers do not sound like they do on TV/movies, but then again, most guns don't sound that way either.

Which is why most people refer to them as suppressors. "Silencers" only exist on film, TV or the minds of the uninformed.

OakRidgeStars wrote:

ImmortalArms wrote:3. Silencers do not sound like they do on TV/movies, but then again, most guns don't sound that way either.

Which is why most people refer to them as suppressors. "Silencers" only exist on film, TV or the minds of the uninformed.

And a handful of well designed .22lr cans with the perfect ammo.

OakRidgeStars wrote:

ImmortalArms wrote:3. Silencers do not sound like they do on TV/movies, but then again, most guns don't sound that way either.

Which is why most people refer to them as suppressors. "Silencers" only exist on film, TV or the minds of the uninformed.

... ATF calls them that, up to the reader to decide where they fit on your scale

actually 'silencers' was an actual term, it's just not used anymore. i own a few brügger & thomet's marked 'silencer' that use wipes for sound suppression, unlike machined baffles of today. the term 'suppressor' for me, just means the difference in technology.

All I know is that it makes a big difference on the sound of gunderwoods .50BMG when you shoot it with the supressor then without the suppressor.

I know that a "SilencerCo" Sparrow on a 10/22? You only hear the slapping of the action... quietest thing I have EVER shot!

pedal_pusher wrote:actually 'silencers' was an actual term, it's just not used anymore. i own a few brügger & thomet's marked 'silencer' that use wipes for sound suppression, unlike machined baffles of today. the term 'suppressor' for me, just means the difference in technology.

The ATF still uses the term silencer when referring to these items. Suppressor has become a more PC term, as silencers have taken on a negative aura of "hitman".

Reverenddel wrote:I know that a "SilencerCo" Sparrow on a 10/22? You only hear the slapping of the action... quietest thing I have EVER shot!

Attach it to the end of a Ruger 22/45 and run subsonic ammo.....click...slap...BIG GRIN

I tried subsonic 22lr in my waltherp22 and it jammed every shot. I'm thinking suppressor and bolt action rifle is the way to be real quite.

K, you go with that package?

Squirrels will shudder at the mere mention of your name.

"Hey Frank, wanna run around, and shake our tails? (ZIP-THWACK!) Frank? Wha'...(ZIP-THWACK! sound of squirrel falling)".

A bolt gun setup is scary quiet.
P22's are picky about the ammo. You have to play with it until you find the load it likes. The 22/45 doesn't seem to care.

Now, I know next to nothing about suppressors and currently have no interest in getting one. And I CERTAINLY would NOT improvise one in violation of state and federal law.

I do have an observation:
I wonder how well soda bottle suppressors work and I wonder if anyone at the BATFE has noticed this advertisement.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=606354



It's called the "No Mess" Tipton™ Patch Catcher.

I'm fairly cerian the wallmart add this week had both duct tape and pillows in it... I wonder if they know about that add too?

jdonovan wrote:I'm fairly cerian the wallmart add this week had both duct tape and pillows in it... I wonder if they know about that add too?

I read a crime research report on suppressors a while back (don't think I saved it off and I don't recall where I got it from), but they noted that criminals know about the additional charges if they use a suppressor in the commission of a crime (technically just possessing one while committing a felony is sufficient). Thus, pillows indeed are the most common suppression technology used in the commission of a crime. A pillow is very effective (apparently), conspicuous and/or easy found on location, carries no additional charge, and is "untraceable."

Clearly we need to bring pillows under the NFA...

AlanM wrote:I wonder how well soda bottle suppressors work and I wonder if anyone at the BATFE has noticed this advertisement.

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=606354



It's called the "No Mess" Tipton™ Patch Catcher.

Soda bottle silencers work quite well, apparently the old one liter bottles were best (shaving cream makes a great coolant). Every few years someone comes out with another bottle adapter, that is the registered part and the bottle is a consumable, like a wipe.

Those solvent traps have been noticed before, but ATF hasn't said anything about them and I'm not aware of anyone making one into a silencer and then talking about it online.

Perhaps I should get one and see how it performs.

gundrewood wrote:I read a crime research report on suppressors a while back (don't think I saved it off and I don't recall where I got it from), but they noted that criminals know about the additional charges if they use a suppressor in the commission of a crime (technically just possessing one while committing a felony is sufficient).

Do you mean this law review article?

The City of Newport News has both a Chief of Police (he's new, Richard W. Myers, will he sign?) and a Sheriff (Gabe Morgan). Who signs more often?

Sheriff is mispelled on your website on the NFA info page.

To far of a drive for me

Ever since I got my first suppressor, I've been hooked..to the point where I don't quite care for shooting anything unsuppressed. Having said that, my 2 favorites are shooting suppressed Bolt action 22s and subsonic 300 blk.