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The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 10:22:49
by Reverenddel
27 Rifles Stolen from California Military Base

Published July 30, 2011

| Associated Press AP

Twenty-six AK-74 assault rifles, above, and one Dragunov sniper rifle were stolen from a supply warehouse at Fort Irwin in San Bernardino County.

FORT IRWIN, Calif. – More than two dozen assault rifles have been stolen from a Southern California military base, and investigators sought the public's help as they looked to arrest suspects and recover the weapons, federal officials said Friday.

Twenty-six AK-74 assault rifles and one Dragunov sniper rifle were stolen from a supply warehouse at Fort Irwin in San Bernardino County on July 15, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says in a statement.

Some arrests have been made and one rifle has been recovered, but the agency is offering a reward of up to $10,000 for information leading to further arrests, the statement said.

"Community participation is necessary to improve the likelihood that ATF and our law enforcement partners will track down the firearms as well as the criminals who have sought to destabilize our community through illegal activity," ATF Special Agent in Charge John A. Torres said in the statement.

ATF spokesman Special Agent Christian Hoffman could not say when reached by phone how many were arrested, whether they were military or civilian or what motive they may have had.

He referred those questions to military officials, who made the arrests. Phone and email messages left late Friday for a spokesman from the U.S. Army Criminal Investigations Command, which is investigating the theft along with the ATF and the FBI, were not immediately returned.

Hoffman also could not say why word of the theft did not become public for two weeks, but said his agency decided to issue a news release because of the potential danger the loose weapons posed.

"We determined that there was a public safety issue with the guns getting out on the street," he said.

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Soooo, you have "Operation Fast and Furious", "Project Gunwalker", and now this?!?! :roll:

"reward of up to $10,000"!? Yeeeaahhh, noooo. That ain't gonna work, because they know the guy they're rattin' out is packin' a REAL ASSAULT RIFLE IN FULLY AUTO!

I think the Federal Guv'mint needs to get it's OWN self together before it starts complaining about PRIVATE gun ownership!I hate a hypocrite. :hysterical:

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:36:55
by zephyp
Stricter gun laws will eliminate problems like this one...I wonder if they will blame it on right wing Christian conservative tea party domestic terrorists...

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:43:05
by Kreutz
I remember every now and then on Friday afternoons before dismissal our CO would sometimes ask us to keep an eye out for a stolen vehicle, I always found that hilarious.

"Remember, don't punch the wife, beat the kids, or get arrested, and oh yeah, if anyone sees a Humvee with serial number blah blah, please call the MP's, enjoy your weekend!"

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:08:29
by Jakeiscrazy
I guess it's better than the normal, giving the guns to cartels. Now they just let them steal them.

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:20:27
by Reverenddel
I remember a few years back some "FEEBIES" had their MP5's stolen out of the back of their "Blacked out SUV".

(shakes head) I keep telling people, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE LEO'S DOES NOT MAKE THEM EXPERTS ON FIREARMS, OR FIREARM RELATED TOPICS!

Then again, don't discount them either. Coolest techniques I ever learned for retaining a long gun in CQB was from a Navy SEAL.

God Bless Lil' Creek! :wave:

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 13:26:57
by Sensai
Jakeiscrazy wrote:I guess it's better than the normal, giving the guns to cartels. Now they just let them steal them.
I'll bet they're just upset because somebody stole the guns that the gubbermint was going to give to the cartels! :hysterical:

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 14:05:14
by CCFan
Sensai wrote:
Jakeiscrazy wrote:I guess it's better than the normal, giving the guns to cartels. Now they just let them steal them.
I'll bet they're just upset because somebody stole the guns that the gubbermint was going to give to the cartels! :hysterical:
Probably so - the cartel probably told them to pony-up - or else!! :hysterical:

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 10:35:55
by lagmonkey
Kreutz wrote:"Remember, don't punch the wife, beat the kids, or get arrested, and oh yeah, if anyone sees a Humvee with serial number blah blah, please call the MP's, enjoy your weekend!"
Oh god Kreutz, you just caused a funny flashback moment.

One of my old Company 1stSgts, who always had a bit of dramatic flair (which has served him well), used to deliver our Friday pre-liberty safety briefs and they went a little something like this:

"Don't drink and drive, don't butt **** anyone, don't get butt ****** by anyone, and don't be UA for Monday morning formation!"

Sorry for getting off topic ... but at least I didn't totally go off the rails and share his "suicide prevention" lecture. :whistle:

Re: The Guv'mint needs to get it's "Gun ownership" in order!

Posted: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 12:59:32
by scott9050
Gang members joining the military and then supplying weapons to their set has been a problem for years.