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Authorities in Utah say a father was arrested after his two children called police to report that he had marijuana in the house.

The Salt Lake Tribune reported Wednesday that the man was charged Tuesday with two third-degree felony charges of child endangerment and one class B misdemeanor accusing him of possession of a controlled substance.

The man's name wasn't reported.

The newspaper says the man was found to have 23.9 grams, or almost an ounce, of marijuana in his home in Salt Lake City.

His children, ages 13 and 12, found the drug and called police.

Its funny because these narcs will be homeless when the police eventually seize the house.

They don't say anything about the kids' mom, but I'm guessing that the kids will likely regret their decision for the rest of their lives.

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allingeneral wrote:They don't say anything about the kids' mom, but I'm guessing that the kids will likely regret their decision for the rest of their lives.

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I'm sure all the credit goes to the leftist/commie schools they attend....

That is going to be one painful decision they will have to live with.

Felony child endangerment for possession of less than an ounce??? Somebody please explain to me how being in possession of something/anything automatically places others in danger.

I cannot place fault with the children. They simply did what the schools and the government have drilled in their heads. They did what they thought was right. They never gave any thought to the possible repercussions.

Their dad, on the other hand, was stupid! Plain and simple, just STUPID! Whether you agree with the marijuana laws or not, if you violate those laws you had better be prepared for the consequences.

Given the ages of the kids, this could be an act of retribution for not getting their way.

I find it disconcerting that posession is a misdemeanor, but they found a way to make a felony out of it.

We don't know the whole story...maybe there's more to the felony endangerment charges than meets the eye. That's part of the problem with our news media...they get half of the story and report it. Very important details that either aren't available or are unattainable can't be reported. So, we end up with a half-assed story that usually further skewed by the reporters own sensibilities.

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allingeneral wrote:We don't know the whole story...maybe there's more to the felony endangerment charges than meets the eye. That's part of the problem with our news media...they get half of the story and report it. Very important details that either aren't available or are unattainable can't be reported. So, we end up with a half-assed story that usually further skewed by the reporters own sensibilities.

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You said this twice and 2 halves make a whole ("...they get half of the story..."), hence you are absolutely 100% correct...we dont know the whole story...

Hmmm...Rick said it 2 times, DK mentioned 2 halves...2+2=?

Yarddawg wrote:Hmmm...Rick said it 2 times, DK mentioned 2 halves...2+2=?

4

Yarddawg wrote:Hmmm...Rick said it 2 times, DK mentioned 2 halves...

8 words and 2 numerals ... 8/2 = 4

Folks we must face the truth that the integer 4 is everywhere to be found. I truly believe there to be some great significance to this...

Lets examine 12-21-2012 which some believe to be the end of the world...

12+21+20+12=65
65 / 4 = 16.25
16*.25 = 4

Yarddawg wrote:Somebody please explain to me how being in possession of something/anything automatically places others in danger.

When it's a leaky drum of sarin?

That's all I got.

I cannot place fault with the children. They simply did what the schools and the government have drilled in their heads. They did what they thought was right. They never gave any thought to the possible repercussions.

I'm forced to agree. The children simply did as they were programmed. The realization that children can be programmed into doing damn near anything is something that has given governments great and terrible power.

Think about that when you send your kids off to public school. You may be setting up your own destruction.

Diomed wrote:The realization that children can be programmed into doing damn near anything is something that has given governments great and terrible power.

Think about that when you send your kids off to public school. You may be setting up your own destruction.

Well said...but your and their destruction...

As an aside, if there is a grand scheme to force a fundamental change upon us by programming our children it is definitely a long term goal...and, IMHO that would mean those in visible government are merely the executors and not the strategists...

Change the term "Marijuana", and place the word "Firearms".

THAT is why I am not happy about how schools are brainwashing the kids. Also, I'm not happy when Dr's asked "You own guns, right?"

Unless I'm there for lead poisoning, or a bullet wound, why are you asking?

Otherwise? HUSH! Handle the issue I'm here for sawbones!

It's getting more, and more like "V for Vendetta".

I had not thought of this--yet another reason to home school. Takes away at least 8 hours of government indoctrination.

I don't smoke pot and don't condone it. I know a lot of folks that I otherwise have respect for do use it, so I just mind my own business. I can always find a good excuse to be somewhere else when it's being used. But it did occur to me that there is sort of a precedent on this situation back here in the mountains.

You see, some kids' daddies used to make liquor.

Of course, that WAS a felony (but I reckon producing and reselling pot still is, right?). But there was NO sympathy for the enforcers on illegal liquor; and folks would protect total strangers agin' the "revenooers". A teacher who told children to turn in their parents would have lived a damned uncomfortable (and probably a short) life a decade or two ago. These days, I'd say a lot of folks would shake their heads and "tut-tut" at it, but the guv'mint would get away with it even here, I reckon.

You know dorminWS it seems to me that our ancestors--heck even our grandparents were made of sterner stuff than we are. Why is that? Is it the vaccines? The air conditioning? The floride in our water? What makes the current populace so lily livered when our ancestors were so strong?

I am constantly amazed. I take my three kids (pregnant with #4) to Costco to pick up a few groceries (my kids are very well behaved 90% of the time so they are not causing any disturbance) and people look at me like I am crazy to even attempt that. My great grandmother raised 6 children during the depression while her husband traveled the country taking whatever jobs he could, they ate what they could grow in their garden and what they could hunt in the woods. Milk was the only thing they had to buy and they bartered their eggs for that most of the time.

One big reason is that way too dang many are dependent on the ever-lovin' gummint. State and local gummint are by far the largest employers in SW VA. Most of that's employees of the welfare, social services and schools (teachers). Damn near half of the population is on some kind of assistance, whether it's welfare, ADC, SSA, SSI, "crazy checks", other disability, retirement, you name it. Reckon a body does tend to think twice about biting the hand that feeds them. I think a right smart about biting the hand that's taking it off'n MY plate to feed those sorry b@stards.

The other thing that I think has changed a lot of things is that very few people want to do any of the mundane work that used to be a necessary part of living, so they just get lazy as the devil. I know where you're coming from on the housefull of young'uns. I was the oldest of 8. There were 9 in my dad's family. My wife was only one of 3, but her dad died young. Her mother was one of 15! I can remember when I was a boy, watching all the women in the family gathered in the wash room (where they kept the maytag washer with the mandrel wringer on top) of my grandaddy's house when the beans started coming in from Grandpap's garden. They'd literally sit in beans piled up as high as their stools, stringing and breaking half-runners, little greasys, and 2-3 other varieties. They didn't quit until they were all canned, dried, or frozen. Went on for a couple of weeks, off and on. Thing is, by then they could all afford to buy "store-boughten" food; they just refused to eat it. Young women these days can't even believe anybody would do that much work just to eat. In fact, there was one at the house a while back that saw me sitting in the den watching TV and stringing beans (something I don't mind atall to do, since my mind is only occupied about 10% and my hands not atall by what TV has to offer, and I LIKE fresh green beans), and she told me she didn't even know you had to DO that to a bean before you ate it.

God help them if they ever see a day without a paycheck from a big company, a bank, a McDonald's and a Walmart

mamabearCali wrote:You know dorminWS it seems to me that our ancestors--heck even our grandparents were made of sterner stuff than we are. Why is that? Is it the vaccines? The air conditioning? The floride in our water? What makes the current populace so lily livered when our ancestors were so strong?

Its a common misconception newer generations have it easier. Both Aristotle and Plato bemoaned the generation after them as weak willed and lazy; apparently they wore shoes in the snow unlike their fathers.

So this perception has been around for millenia-literally.

Diomed wrote:

I cannot place fault with the children. They simply did what the schools and the government have drilled in their heads. They did what they thought was right. They never gave any thought to the possible repercussions.

I'm forced to agree. The children simply did as they were programmed. The realization that children can be programmed into doing damn near anything is something that has given governments great and terrible power.

Think about that when you send your kids off to public school. You may be setting up your own destruction.

See my rants about the public education system...it was designed for indoctrination, not education. I.e. it's systemically flawed.