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VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:32:01
by OakRidgeStars
From the front page of today's Virginian-Pilot:

http://hamptonroads.com/2009/06/virgini ... ecord-clip

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:12:55
by zephyp
I'm curious to know many people that supported Obama (for whatever reason) have now rushed to buy guns and ammo. I'm guessing many more than would be willing to admit.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:27:58
by OakRidgeStars
I think a lot of responsible gun owners let themselves get caught up in the Obama "cult of personality" campaign rhetoric last year, not realizing what the left's true agenda was. The same thing happened back in 1976 with Jimmy Carter. The good news now, just like then, is that the country began to move back towards the right. The result was the election of Ronald Reagan, which kicked off many years of prosperity from lower taxes and smaller government.

I think next year's election process will be the beginning of a renewed wave of conservative thinking in this country.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:04:44
by VBshooter
I'm curious to know many people that supported Obama (for whatever reason) have now rushed to buy guns and ammo. I'm guessing many more than would be willing to admit.
Actually written pretty good considering the Pilots politics,,,,
I am willing to bet a lot of others didn;t even bother to vote thinking he ( Obama) didnt stand a chance,,, Then you have the ones who didn't vote because they didn't like either candidate,, the NRA says its ranks have increased by 30% since the election and that should give us a pretty substantial voting block.......Now to concentrate on each election and get that majority stuff removed and get more pro gun guys in there to replace the dead wood,,,,

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:34:56
by punchie
Now to concentrate on each election and get that majority stuff removed and get more pro gun guys in there to replace the dead wood,,,,
BINGO +1 on that!

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:02:09
by Bobtail1911

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:15:10
by fudgeva
I am not affraid to say that I am an oboma supporter, I have not read the article yet but I've printed it out so I can read it while on watch. There are many topics I disagreed with his intentions on, and my guns where one of them. Dont stone me guys! :whistle:

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:21:48
by CCFan
OakRidgeStars wrote:I think a lot of responsible gun owners let themselves get caught up in the Obama "cult of personality" campaign rhetoric last year, not realizing what the left's true agenda was. The same thing happened back in 1976 with Jimmy Carter.
Couldn't agree more.

I think a lot of people, not just gun owners, got caught up in the personality campaign. People wanted a Hollywood president, and that's what they got.

I personally think we need to get back to the Constitution and what the country was founded on... I did my research before I voted, and I can't say nationalizing GM or appointing a SCOTUS nominee who gave a one paragraph rebuttal to a reverse discrimination case surprises me. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:32:57
by VBshooter
The way they put him on the pedestal and wouldn;t let any bad info get out was proof enough for me that he was gonna get elected no matter what, And McCain acting like a waliking corpse didnt help the Repubs a bit,,, He was and still is the media's golden boy,,,Once the shine wears off they'll toss him like a ripped pair of skivvies and get themselves another messiah.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:44:13
by zephyp
VBshooter wrote:...and get themselves another messiah...
Indeed, but the next one could be far worse...

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:52:12
by VBshooter
Thata where we come in,, Its up to all of us to do our best that don;t happen again.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:53:48
by Bobtail1911
Chrysler's take over is maybe on hold now though! The Courts have put a stay on the power grab by the unions over the true bondholders.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:56:21
by zephyp
I hate to see Chrysler go under, not that I'm a big fan, but the bondholders are the creditors and IMO they should come first. That is, unless I woke up someplace other than America this morning.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:35:05
by fudgeva
I cannot believe what I am reading you guys are sitting up here passing complete judgement on your new president based on his veiws about gun laws and restraint of gun ownership. I own several guns I love them I voted for obama I disagree with oboma on his veiws. Yeah some people saw him being elected and cried as if it where a miracle of a baby being born but lets not forget the fact that the man was shuveled S@#T and he is dealing with it. It is not his fault it was clinton & Bush's fault. I'm not just saying this because I'm a millitary member who wants to come home and see my daughter or a gun owner who wants to keep and carry his guns. There is a much bigger picture than damn gun laws. I bet you guys didnt even know that your previous oil prince president baught $250,000,000 into Iraqi denar several years ago because he knew he had our country and economy going to crap while we put billions into the waste land I'm in right now and when that denar goes back up hmmmm. do the math 750 bucks can get you 2,000,000 denar when its up your looking at 200,000 - 300,000. in american dollars you think that was something the troops found out from there president / negative! :packin:

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:44:48
by Bobtail1911
When you become President, you now "own it"

Listen to his rhetoric and "numbers" that he pulls out of his *** and you see that he is just like every other politician. Look at what his administration is actually trying to do and you see America going into ruinous Socialism. To fully accomplish that they will have to ban guns because most Americans will want to put a stop to it.

I for one do not want my government getting into the car, banking, healthcare or any other business. In 1965 the Medicare Bill doubled the cost of healthcare in one year. Read up on it, its true. When they tried to reform the law the very next year, the cost of healthcare went up another 100 percent. This forced the rise of HMO's. If you give them the power they will only screw it up IMO. Look at AMTRAK and the Post Office as two more examples. Oh yeah, did I say they were trying to tax us out of a recession too?

FYI, I did not vote for OBAMA, I knew what he was before hand.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:35:25
by VBshooter
He is also pushing the envelope of Fascism with these Czars he keeps appointing that are accountable to no one ,,not even Congress,, We had one President that thought he was above the law too during the Vietnam war days,,, But we found out about him and forced him to resign before the articles of impeachment caught up with him..Ive seen a lot of politicians come and go and none have embarrased this country anywhere near what Obama has and continues to do. THe public will wake up and hopefully it won;t be too late, I didn't vote for him either , He was not then, and is not now qualified to lead this country,
As the saying goes.,"I'll keep my freedom,my money, and my guns,,, You can KEEP the change!

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:03:31
by zephyp
fudgrva - yes Bush was no saint either, but IMHO the right to bear arms is the very essence of our freedom. Without the 1st and 2nd amendments we would indeed be ready to toast. Thanks to folks like you and many others we will hopefully continue to enjoy our Constitutional rights (all of them) for a long long time.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:22:16
by Moccasin
fudgeva wrote:I cannot believe what I am reading you guys are sitting up here passing complete judgement on your new president based on his veiws about gun laws and restraint of gun ownership. I own several guns I love them I voted for obama I disagree with oboma on his veiws. Yeah some people saw him being elected and cried as if it where a miracle of a baby being born but lets not forget the fact that the man was shuveled S@#T and he is dealing with it. It is not his fault it was clinton & Bush's fault. I'm not just saying this because I'm a millitary member who wants to come home and see my daughter or a gun owner who wants to keep and carry his guns. There is a much bigger picture than damn gun laws. I bet you guys didnt even know that your previous oil prince president baught $250,000,000 into Iraqi denar several years ago because he knew he had our country and economy going to crap while we put billions into the waste land I'm in right now and when that denar goes back up hmmmm. do the math 750 bucks can get you 2,000,000 denar when its up your looking at 200,000 - 300,000. in american dollars you think that was something the troops found out from there president / negative! :packin:
This is the Virginia Gun Owners Forum, do you actually expect that we would NOT consider views on firearms when "passing complete judgment" on anyone?

You disagreed with his views so you voted for him?????? I'm speechless on this one, voting for someone I disagree with makes no sense at all.

Interesting theory, what proof or references do you have to substantiate this claim? And what exactly does it have to do with whether or not anyone agrees with how this country is currently being run?

One last thing for you to consider- Spelling and Grammar checks are our friends, use them well and use them often.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:51:04
by allingeneral
Moccasin wrote:
fudgeva wrote:I cannot believe what I am reading you guys are sitting up here passing complete judgement on your new president based on his veiws about gun laws and restraint of gun ownership. I own several guns I love them I voted for obama I disagree with oboma on his veiws. Yeah some people saw him being elected and cried as if it where a miracle of a baby being born but lets not forget the fact that the man was shuveled S@#T and he is dealing with it. It is not his fault it was clinton & Bush's fault. I'm not just saying this because I'm a millitary member who wants to come home and see my daughter or a gun owner who wants to keep and carry his guns. There is a much bigger picture than damn gun laws. I bet you guys didnt even know that your previous oil prince president baught $250,000,000 into Iraqi denar several years ago because he knew he had our country and economy going to crap while we put billions into the waste land I'm in right now and when that denar goes back up hmmmm. do the math 750 bucks can get you 2,000,000 denar when its up your looking at 200,000 - 300,000. in american dollars you think that was something the troops found out from there president / negative! :packin:
This is the Virginia Gun Owners Forum, do you actually expect that we would NOT consider views on firearms when "passing complete judgment" on anyone?

You disagreed with his views so you voted for him?????? I'm speechless on this one, voting for someone I disagree with makes no sense at all.

Interesting theory, what proof or references do you have to substantiate this claim? And what exactly does it have to do with whether or not anyone agrees with how this country is currently being run?

One last thing for you to consider- Spelling and Grammar checks are our friends, use them well and use them often.

I will preface this by saying that I'm not out to denigrate you for your opinions, fudgeva - I'm just posting my opinions in response to those already posted. I'm glad that you are defending our country and I appreciate the sacrifices you've made and will continue to make during your time of service. I hope that living in these times will help give you the wisdom that you will need to pass on to the younger generation both in our armed forces and later in your civilian life.

If the guns issue was the only thing that bothered me about Obama, then I'd be much happier. Unfortunately, I disagree with nearly every decision that Obama has made as president of this great country of ours - and he hasn't even been at it for 6 months yet!

I've got to agree with Moccasin on this one. Why would you vote for someone with whom you disagree?

My opinion on George Bush is that he could have done a lot of things differently, but going after the scourge of the Earth who attacked our innocent men, women and children right after he took the presidency was the right thing to do and I am proud to have called him my president while I was serving and after I separated from service. I can't say the same for Obama. He seems to be out to ruin us and I don't like it.

I have to agree with the grammar and spelling thing too. It's like presenting yourself for an inspection. You shine your shoes, iron your uniform, get a haircut and a fresh shave don't you? So why leave a ragged looking post on a forum for all to see - it reflects poorly upon you.

Re: VA Pilot Story: Rise in CC Permits & Gun Sales

Posted: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:54:11
by fudgeva
Thanks for the insult Mo! I was typing with a little urgency had to go on watch. Truth is I agree to disagree I'm not questioning what wisdom some of you guys may or may not have aquired over the years from presidency to presidency. I voted for who I thought was the right man for the job. We force men in this country into retirement after they hit what age, lets just say they lose productivity in a way and some where willing to give a 75 year old the top job. The fact is like I said I agree to disagree I do not want to get into a pissing arguement with anyone in this forum. I respect my elders!