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PA is changing their out of state issue laws soon, so if you want one this is how to do it.

From www.carryconcealed.net/

States that Honor Virginia's CCW Permit:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan*, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah*, Vermont*, Virginia, West Virginia
* Honors RESIDENTIAL Virginia permits only.

States that Honor Pennsylvania's CCW Permit:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado*, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan*, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah*, Vermont*, Virginia, West Virginia, Wyoming
* Honors RESIDENTIAL Pennsylvania permits only.


Thus, PA gains you in-addition to VAs: Georgia, New Hampshire, Wyoming.
Form for the best county in PA to get it is: http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/lice ... cation.asp

VA's CHP is honored in Wyoming (according to Handgunlaw.us). Unfortunately, New Hampshire only honors resident permits and its own non-resident permit, so a PA non-resident permit is no help. Georgia is the only additional state the PA non-resident permit gets you beyond what a VA permit provides as far as I can tell.

If anyone intends to get one, act now as PA will soon stop issuing non-resident permits via mail; you will have to apply in person in PA. There's a recent discussion that talks to that at the last few post of this thread:

http://vagunforum.net/general-discussio ... t5277.html

You are correct on both accounts. That list is old and I should have check it. Thanks.

This reciprocity stuff can change very quickly for any number of reasons. I just happened to have been keeping up with it lately. I have found Handgunlaw.us to be the best site for national-level reciprocity info content and currency.

I was thinking I should get Florida. I have scheduled trips to Georgia and Alabama. Also, as far as I can tell, Florida also only accepts resident out of state permits, so if I'm down there, I need a Florida permit.

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rromeo wrote:I was thinking I should get Florida. I have scheduled trips to Georgia and Alabama. Also, as far as I can tell, Florida also only accepts resident out of state permits, so if I'm down there, I need a Florida permit.

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The way I read this link is that Virginia Resident permits are honored in Florida:

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/news/c ... carry.html

Virginia (1,6)

(1) While Florida's law allows licensees to carry stun guns, knives, and billy clubs in a concealed fashion, the laws in these states allow for concealed carry of handguns or pistols ONLY, NOT WEAPONS IN GENERAL. Florida license holders are prohibited from carrying other types of weapons while in these states.

(6) These states issue concealed carry licenses to qualified individuals who are non-residents. These non-resident permits cannot be honored under Florida's reciprocity provision.

Perhaps he does not have a VA permit and is considering getting only a non-resident FL permit so he is covered in AL, GA, FL and VA. Not a plan I would suggest; but, it would work.

There are six states that don't honor non-resident permits other than their own: CO, MI, FL, NH, SC, ME and MI. VA only covers three of them: FL, SC and MI. So, if you are a VA resident with a resident CHP, you are out of luck in CO, ME and NH unless you get a non-resident permit from the state involved. Of these three, I think only NH even offers a non-resident permit (although CO may issue to a non-resident if you have a business there or some other unique circumstance).

Before folks go chasing a non-resident permit, they should clearly understand what states it provides them. The more state permits you have, the more complex this gets. Here is where Handgunlaw.us can help. There is an interactive map that lets you combine the coverage states for multiple permits. But, you still need to be aware of the six states that don't honor non-resident permits.

And don't forget that there are three states doing it right: AK, AZ and VT -- no permit needed!

I applied for Virginia today, but Ill need Georgia and Alabama, which the VA permit doesn't cover. I now see Florida is covered, I misread it.

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rromeo wrote:I applied for Virginia today, but Ill need Georgia and Alabama, which the VA permit doesn't cover. I now see Florida is covered, I misread it.

Get Arizona...you'll have it in about 2 weeks...it's half the price of FL for initial and 1/3 the price of FL for renewals.

Chasbo00 wrote:Perhaps he does not have a VA permit and is considering getting only a non-resident FL permit so he is covered in AL, GA, FL and VA. Not a plan I would suggest; but, it would work.

There are six states that don't honor non-resident permits other than their own: CO, MI, FL, NH, SC, ME and MI. VA only covers three of them: FL, SC and MI. So, if you are a VA resident with a resident CHP, you are out of luck in CO, ME and NH unless you get a non-resident permit from the state involved. Of these three, I think only NH even offers a non-resident permit (although CO may issue to a non-resident if you have a business there or some other unique circumstance).

Before folks go chasing a non-resident permit, they should clearly understand what states it provides them. The more state permits you have, the more complex this gets. Here is where Handgunlaw.us can help. There is an interactive map that lets you combine the coverage states for multiple permits. But, you still need to be aware of the six states that don't honor non-resident permits.

And don't forget that there are three states doing it right: AK, AZ and VT -- no permit needed!

Maine does...it's only $60 and Shall Issue

mrjam2jab wrote: Maine does...it's only $60 and Shall Issue

Yes, Main does. I had a senior moment and confused Main with Michigan. Thanks for the correction.

Chasbo00 wrote:

mrjam2jab wrote: Maine does...it's only $60 and Shall Issue

Yes, Main does. I had a senior moment and confused Main with Michigan. Thanks for the correction.

Yeah....you listed MI twice in you list of 6...but I wasn't looking to "correct" you...just share the info...

mrjam2jab wrote:

Chasbo00 wrote:

mrjam2jab wrote: Maine does...it's only $60 and Shall Issue

Yes, Main does. I had a senior moment and confused Main with Michigan. Thanks for the correction.

Yeah....you listed MI twice in you list of 6...but I wasn't looking to "correct" you...just share the info...

Jeez, maybe it's dementia and not just a senior moment. Getting old sucks, and it's not for sissies.

They are Damn Yankee states anyhow!

I need to renew my Pa. permit this year so I better get it done now. When I got mine I didn't think the mail even moved that fast. Mailed it on a tuesday and had it on friday. That's quick.

Quick question for anyone who's filled out this PA application before: I see boxesfor employer, employer address, work phone, etc., and they aren't labeled optional. I'm not entirely sure why, but I feel a little iffy putting that information down--I don't know if they intend on contacting my employer for a character reference or what. I know I would get a good reference, but as you know some people don't really "get" the whole CCW thing and I wouldn't want to furrow any brows in HR.

That said, does anyone know if you could leave the employer info blank on this application and still have it approved (providing I'm still within the time limit for this to be issued)?

abraxas wrote:Quick question for anyone who's filled out this PA application before: I see boxesfor employer, employer address, work phone, etc., and they aren't labeled optional. I'm not entirely sure why, but I feel a little iffy putting that information down--I don't know if they intend on contacting my employer for a character reference or what. I know I would get a good reference, but as you know some people don't really "get" the whole CCW thing and I wouldn't want to furrow any brows in HR.

That said, does anyone know if you could leave the employer info blank on this application and still have it approved (providing I'm still within the time limit for this to be issued)?

Being employed is not a requirement to obtaining a LTCF...there are plenty of folks who are writing N/A in that space.

Alternatively, if you are applying thru Centre County....the turn around time is so quick I don't think he is running background checks...since you are supply proof of already having a home state permit...let alone contacting any references.

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abraxas wrote:Quick question for anyone who's filled out this PA application before: I see boxesfor employer, employer address, work phone, etc., and they aren't labeled optional. I'm not entirely sure why, but I feel a little iffy putting that information down--I don't know if they intend on contacting my employer for a character reference or what. I know I would get a good reference, but as you know some people don't really "get" the whole CCW thing and I wouldn't want to furrow any brows in HR.

That said, does anyone know if you could leave the employer info blank on this application and still have it approved (providing I'm still within the time limit for this to be issued)?

Being employed is not a requirement to obtaining a LTCF...there are plenty of folks who are writing N/A in that space.

Alternatively, if you are applying thru Centre County....the turn around time is so quick I don't think he is running background checks...since you are supply proof of already having a home state permit...let alone contacting any references.

Fantastic--thanks very much for the reply.

I've filled in N/A for employer but filled in everything else. I'll be mailing in my application tomorrow and will report back on the results.

*crosses fingers*

mrjam2jab wrote:Alternatively, if you are applying thru Centre County....the turn around time is so quick I don't think he is running background checks...since you are supply proof of already having a home state permit...let alone contacting any references.

I wrote student and got mine in less than a week.

I provided all requested info. Took 2.5 weeks to get mine from Centre Co.

I know this is just a technical matter, but just so all understand, in Pennsylvania, it is called a License To Carry a Firearm (LTCF). You may call it whatever you want, but the reason it is called an LTCF is because it is NOT only for concealed carry...for instance, you must have an LTCF to open carry in the city of first class (Philly), in a car, in a fed school zone, during a declared emergency, concealed carry, and others.....not just for concealed carry, therefore not called a CCW, CCP, CFP......the word concealed does not appear on the license. Also, one of the biggest misunderstandings in PA, when one receives this license, you do not automatically have to carry only concealed.

pamountainman wrote:I know this is just a technical matter, but just so all understand, in Pennsylvania, it is called a License To Carry a Firearm (LTCF). You may call it whatever you want, but the reason it is called an LTCF is because it is NOT only for concealed carry...for instance, you must have an LTCF to open carry in the city of first class (Philly), in a car, in a fed school zone, during a declared emergency, concealed carry, and others.....not just for concealed carry, therefore not called a CCW, CCP, CFP......the word concealed does not appear on the license. Also, one of the biggest misunderstandings in PA, when one receives this license, you do not automatically have to carry only concealed.

Thanks.

Many people get in wrong in Va too. We have concealed handgun permits (CHP). Not concealed weapon permits, nor have we had them since about 1995. We do not have the ability conceal, "any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, machete, razor, slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, or blackjack; (iii) any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain; (iv) any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart; or (v) any weapon of like kind".

Thankfully our right to carry openly and privilege to carry concealed is not subject to the whims of the Governor nor is it dependant on whether we are in a vehicle or not.