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It was only a matter of time till the Left leaning writers and media outfits came out to bark at the moon and spew their special kind of Crappola Tripe Deluxe......to even think this kind of garbage is a didervice not only to his readers but to his associates that may have the good taste to report the crime , and not sensationalize it with cheap shots at random right celebrities.....


This douchebag is blaming literally everybody on the left that has any name recognition....

NY Times’ Krugman Blames Shooting on GOP, ‘Hate-Mongers’ Beck & Limbaugh

New York Times’ columnist Paul Krugman took to his blog site Saturday to blame Republicans and conservatives for the attempted murder of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. Despite the somber occasion, Krugman chose to be combative and shamelessly used Saturday’s tragedy to berate those ideologically opposed to him.

THis guy is a real shi7 with absolutely no class .....Not too mention being a first class jack off!!

yeah but he also seems to subscribe to Rahm Emannuel's and Saul Alinsky,(and Obama's) ideology of "never letting a crisis go to waste"

this is only the beginning, by the time the sunday shows air everyone will be calling for the end of talk radio, the confiscation especially of guns owned by TEA PARTY members, and an extended hate speech ammendment that will make all opposition speech illegal..



as far as Beck is involved, he has been begging his audience to NEVER sink so low as to become violent in any way. The mainstream know that, but their audience doesn't, and will not .

After listening to the media reports of how much shooting the criminal did , the wife asked "what kind of hangun is capable of that?"



...."a nice one", I said.

GS78 wrote:yeah but he also seems to subscribe to Rahm Emannuel's and Saul Alinsky,(and Obama's) ideology of "never letting a crisis go to waste"

this is only the beginning, by the time the sunday shows air everyone will be calling for the end of talk radio, the confiscation especially of guns owned by TEA PARTY members, and an extended hate speech ammendment that will make all opposition speech illegal..



as far as Beck is involved, he has been begging his audience to NEVER sink so low as to become violent in any way. The mainstream know that, but their audience doesn't, and will not .

Yeah, but there has been some dubious stuff coming out of Tea Party land. Rhetoric like "take our country back", and "the government is taking away our freedoms" can be construed by crazy bastards as instructions to act.

Same crap happened when GW was President on the left, these times realllllly seem to be bringing out the nuts, and I don't think the almost insane level of discourse from either political extreme is helping.

Is clamping down on talk show hosts or reducing free speech the answer? HELL NO. But, people really need to think before they say certain things, sadly in this day and age you just might be inadvertently telling a nut to go kill some people.

People like the Arizona murderer are bad all around. Bad for gun owners, bad for free speech, bad for free expression, bad for association, bad for a democracy. Of course we can't punish others for the actions of one though. Just wish people would tone it down, that SarahPAC poster with the crosshairs on Arizona and the Congresswoman's name is basically crazy bait, and maybe she knew that, maybe she didn't. Either way, what if it contribute to this?

Kreutz wrote:
Yeah, but there has been some dubious stuff coming out of Tea Party land. Rhetoric like "take our country back", and "the government is taking away our freedoms" can be construed by crazy bastards as instructions to act.

Same crap happened when GW was President on the left, these times realllllly seem to be bringing out the nuts, and I don't think the almost insane level of discourse from either political extreme is helping.

Is clamping down on talk show hosts or reducing free speech the answer? HELL NO. But, people really need to think before they say certain things, sadly in this day and age you just might be inadvertently telling a nut to go kill some people.

People like the Arizona murderer are bad all around. Bad for gun owners, bad for free speech, bad for free expression, bad for association, bad for a democracy. Of course we can't punish others for the actions of one though. Just wish people would tone it down, that SarahPAC poster with the crosshairs on Arizona and the Congresswoman's name is basically crazy bait, and maybe she knew that, maybe she didn't. Either way, what if it contribute to this?

Ballshot (SP?) These kinds of things have happened throughout history. One crazy sumbugger acts out what the voices tell him (remember hinkley and a host of others that were ruled insane) There doesn't have to be a radio personality or former candidate "targeting" the famous or those that are in the public view. All that is required is mental illness...and that isn't going to be legislated away.
As far as gun rights is concerned, this demonstrates one very good reason that the populace needs to be armed.

WRW wrote:

Kreutz wrote:
Yeah, but there has been some dubious stuff coming out of Tea Party land. Rhetoric like "take our country back", and "the government is taking away our freedoms" can be construed by crazy bastards as instructions to act.

Same crap happened when GW was President on the left, these times realllllly seem to be bringing out the nuts, and I don't think the almost insane level of discourse from either political extreme is helping.

Is clamping down on talk show hosts or reducing free speech the answer? HELL NO. But, people really need to think before they say certain things, sadly in this day and age you just might be inadvertently telling a nut to go kill some people.

People like the Arizona murderer are bad all around. Bad for gun owners, bad for free speech, bad for free expression, bad for association, bad for a democracy. Of course we can't punish others for the actions of one though. Just wish people would tone it down, that SarahPAC poster with the crosshairs on Arizona and the Congresswoman's name is basically crazy bait, and maybe she knew that, maybe she didn't. Either way, what if it contribute to this?

Ballshot (SP?) These kinds of things have happened throughout history. One crazy sumbugger acts out what the voices tell him (remember hinkley and a host of others that were ruled insane) There doesn't have to be a radio personality or former candidate "targeting" the famous or those that are in the public view. All that is required is mental illness...and that isn't going to be legislated away.
As far as gun rights is concerned, this demonstrates one very good reason that the populace needs to be armed.

+1

Everything so far from the Communist Manifesto, his Atheism, his reading of Mein kampf,burning of the American flag etc etc. is pointing to the fact that he is indeed a left winger and far removed from the right. Someone who knew him said this:

A 22-year-old woman in Arizona, Caitie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as "left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as having a lot of friends "until he got alcohol poisoning in '06" and dropped out of school. "Mainly loner very philosophical."

Well, the bottom line is the daily news is littered with shooting incidents here in the US. Now some twit has shot a congresswoman. I can already see where this is headed. Lucky for us that something like this didnt happen a few months ago. Now we can only hope that the republicans in the house play this one fairly...the fact that the gun was purchased legally (by him maybe?) and people are talking about how strange this guy is probably doesnt help us...

I can hear obama's press conference...

The fact that the shooter has a history of derangement and was able to legally buy the gun that shot Congresswoman Giffords is clear evidence that our gun control laws are severely lacking. I have commissioned a special counsel to study this and other incidents along with current gun control laws and report back to me in one month. Their recommendation will form the foundation for a new dawn here in America as we make our country a safer place.

The vitriolic left knows no boundaries, has no compassion and desires not to ever know or seek the truth. Paul Krugman is one of the lowest of the lows on the progressive left. Without fail, most violence is enacted by loony lefty's not the other way around. For the media to use this horrible situation to demonize entire blocks of American's shows us their soulless pursuit to attack anyone who doesn't march to their ideology.

Zephyp wrote: Now we can only hope that the republicans in the house play this one fairly...the fact that the gun was purchased legally (by him maybe?)

If he got it at a Gun Show of any kind the anti's will literally piss their pants with joy at the sympathy they can create to shut em down, We gotta fight coming I'm sure..and soon.

I bet we hear from the Feinsteins,Schumers and other fascists declaring that all guns should be confiscated and all citizens be indoctrinated in anti gun behavior for their own good.

Kreutz wrote:

GS78 wrote:yeah but he also seems to subscribe to Rahm Emannuel's and Saul Alinsky,(and Obama's) ideology of "never letting a crisis go to waste"

this is only the beginning, by the time the sunday shows air everyone will be calling for the end of talk radio, the confiscation especially of guns owned by TEA PARTY members, and an extended hate speech ammendment that will make all opposition speech illegal..



as far as Beck is involved, he has been begging his audience to NEVER sink so low as to become violent in any way. The mainstream know that, but their audience doesn't, and will not .

Yeah, but there has been some dubious stuff coming out of Tea Party land. Rhetoric like "take our country back", and "the government is taking away our freedoms" can be construed by crazy bastards as instructions to act.

Same crap happened when GW was President on the left, these times realllllly seem to be bringing out the nuts, and I don't think the almost insane level of discourse from either political extreme is helping.

Is clamping down on talk show hosts or reducing free speech the answer? HELL NO. But, people really need to think before they say certain things, sadly in this day and age you just might be inadvertently telling a nut to go kill some people.

People like the Arizona murderer are bad all around. Bad for gun owners, bad for free speech, bad for free expression, bad for association, bad for a democracy. Of course we can't punish others for the actions of one though. Just wish people would tone it down, that SarahPAC poster with the crosshairs on Arizona and the Congresswoman's name is basically crazy bait, and maybe she knew that, maybe she didn't. Either way, what if it contribute to this?

I agree 100% , BUT, how do you "make someone" tone it down? ammend the First? Canada has laws against free speech. Should we? I don't know the answer, I do suspect we are headed towards a big change in the way we are "allowed" to speak in this country. As for SarahPac, I never thought she was anything other than a prop to make the old dude look a tad bit younger and more vibrant. She certainly has only shown her ineptness thus far. I don't know what the answer is but I do know that the people in power in D.C. don't know either, however they are going to do all kinds of things as a reaction to this tragedy, most of which will be inevitably at the cost of freedom.