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I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:21:01
by Dragonfly
Buddy of mine sent me the following so I believe just maybe a little upgrade is needed.

Moral of the story: Pick a bigger caliber!

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Man accused of killing wife is still in jail

Published on Wednesday, Jan 21, 2009

Beacon Journal staff report

The man accused of shooting his estranged wife and holding their son hostage from police remains jailed. Daniel Tice, 32, appeared in Akron Municipal Court Tuesday morning still showing the gunshot wound that ended an eight-hour standoff with police this month.
He is charged with aggravated murder in the shooting death of his wife, Brandi Tice, 28. Daniel Tice was shot by police once in the forehead while he was holed up in the basement of his Martha Avenue home. The shot fractured his skull. Tice underwent surgery at Akron City Hospital and was taken Friday to the Summit County Jail, where he is being held in lieu of a $1 million bond set by visiting Judge Michael McNulty. Family members say Tice was angered over his wife's affair with a family member and her demand for a divorce. He is accused of shooting his wife in the living room, taking his son and holding police at bay for eight hours.
His 4-year-old son was not harmed. The couple's two daughters, 8 and 7, were kept from the home when they returned from school.
SWAT members worked their way inside the home and shot Tice with an MP5 assault rifle after failing to subdue the 6-foot-1, 280-pound man with nonlethal bean bags fired from a gun.

Regarding the 9 mm hit ­the point of aim is a bit too high and looks like it may be on a curved portion of the skull. You actually want to target the eye-sockets, especially with a handgun round to avoid projectile deflection from the skull (this happens more frequently than people expect).

Don't bring pistol caliber weapons to the fight if you have the option of using a rifle...

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:26:55
by OakRidgeStars
It seems strange that SWAT would take a head shot. Lucky for this guy that they did :confused:

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:43:53
by Vahunter
Wonder what happened to center mass ?

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:51:51
by Moccasin
SWAT members worked their way inside the home and shot Tice with an MP5 assault rifle
Guess assault rifles really aren't as bad as the anti's say, a hunting rifle would have done a better job.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:10:03
by zephyp
Gee, that guy even looks like a bonehead.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:00:16
by allingeneral
Now he has a scar to match his uni-brow

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:32:36
by Nathan
Wow. That's crazy. Time for a 10mm.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:56:15
by Bob
I carry my 9mm almost all the time, I'd love to carry my 45 but I'm not that big a guy and it's hard to keep it hidden, I hate to carry a 380, I always feel like I'm under powered, but it's better than nothing. The only time I carry a 380 is when it's hot and all I have on is a tee shirt and jeans.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:32:06
by RocketFuel
Tell all the guys that have been killed by 9mm over the years, that 9mm is not enough caliber.

C'mon guys. Shot placement, and in this case dumb luck, are more important than just caliber. Even a .22 is better than no gun at all - but I won't go there.

You will find exception for even .50 cal, I'm sure.

My 2 cents.

BTW - great board. I enjoy coming here.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:12:29
by Hiwaytahell
Get a .45 :pistol:

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:16:15
by Dragonfly
Hiwaytahell wrote:Get a .45 :pistol:
Nope, got a .40 XDm today. Works really well to, stopped by Dominion this evening and blew out the dust. :fireright:

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:09:28
by Hiwaytahell
Wtg Grumpy
Post some pics when you can :pistol:

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:43:48
by Bob
Looks like you got your self a good one Grumpy.

It's good to blow the cobwebs out of the barrel.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sat, 16 May 2009 23:05:26
by skt239
I'll try and dig up the story, but I remember reading about a woman who took a .44 to the skull in a botched car jacking and drove herself to the hospital. Crazy stuff happens, no reason to discount your .9mm on account of this one very isolated and unlikely instance.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sat, 16 May 2009 23:29:26
by Bob
Ya know Shadi, I think I remember reading about that, you can't discount the 9 mm it's a good solid round it will work.
I carry one most of the time.

I just believe there is no such thing as too big a gun.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:02:58
by Dragonfly
OK, here it is a camera pic. :lovegunporn:

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:11:06
by allingeneral
It doesn't help that the guy has a slope to his forehead like a Neanderthal.

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:50:44
by OakRidgeStars
Some people are just hard to kill

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:53:50
by Vahunter
allingeneral wrote:It doesn't help that the guy has a slope to his forehead like a Neanderthal.
Hey I resemble that remark! :hysterical:

Re: I need to upgrade from a 9 mm

Posted: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:47:20
by allingeneral
Vahunter wrote:
allingeneral wrote:It doesn't help that the guy has a slope to his forehead like a Neanderthal.
Hey I resemble that remark! :hysterical:
LOL :blush: :hysterical: :clap:

No offense!! :)