VA Tech ....disturbing information

[VBshooter]

It seems that VA Tech violated federal law by delaying the announcement that a nut cae was loose on campus...

Feds: Va Tech broke law in '07 shootings response

(AP) – 1 day ago

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — U.S. education officials are standing by their finding that Virginia Tech broke federal law when it waited two hours to notify the campus that a gunman was on the loose at the outset of a 2007 shooting rampage, and then sent out an e-mailed warning that came too late for 30 students and faculty who'd gone to class only to be killed.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... a6c97460b0


Sad to think that some of those kids may be alive today !!The excuse of "The Dept.Of Education didn't define timely just don't cut the mustard.

[wylde007]

None of those kids would be alive if the alert had gone out within ten minutes of Cho's first slaying.

The ONLY THING which could have saved any lives that day was POLICIED away from them. Not one student or faculty member was armed and there was no resistance met.

Nothing will bring back those hapless, helpless children. Nothing.

The only thing which can prevent future tragedy is a return to classical American values and people decide to take responsibility for themselves and their own.

[gunderwood]

The only thing which can prevent future tragedy is a return to classical American values and people decide to take responsibility for themselves and their own.

[Palladin]

The only thing which can prevent future tragedy is a return to classical American values and people decide to take responsibility for themselves and their own.

[VBshooter]

wylde007 wrote:

The only thing which can prevent future tragedy is a return to classical American values and people decide to take responsibility for themselves and their own.

Gotta agree,..When your right, Your right!!

[Jakeiscrazy]

The only thing which can prevent future tragedy is a return to classical American values and people decide to take responsibility for themselves and their own.

Heck, even if you don't have a gun rush with whatever you have. At some point he is doing to have to reload.

[Palladin]

The only thing which can prevent future tragedy is a return to classical American values and people decide to take responsibility for themselves and their own.

Heck, even if you don't have a gun rush with whatever you have. At some point he is doing to have to reload.

Man, I cried back when I read the eyewitness accounts of the students lying on the floor with bullets thudding into their bodies, the old Holocaust survivor taking rounds through the door as he used himself to block the perp from coming in his room. He knew that Life was worth fighting for, I just wish there had been some young adults there with that mentality.

[M1A4ME]

I worked for a college for about 4 years. Bad publicity is "bad" for business. Business is getting as many folks to attend (and pay) for an education as possible. Violence, burglary, rape, assault, etc. is bad for business and they will downplay, minimize and do their best to cover it up in the name of business. That's a fact.

I can remember a girl coming to the Campus Safety Office and reporting she was raped by a football player. Man did they ever browbeat that poor girl trying to get her to change her story. She finally went to the police in the town the college was in and reported it there and they arrested the football player. I do not know how all that turned out by we were told to keep our traps shut because she was also suing the college for the way they'd handled things prior to her going to the "real" police.

[KaosDad]

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I just wish there had been some young adults there with that mentality.

Actually, there were. The Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets (in uniform) deployed themselves in an attempt to identify & distract the shooter. Unfortunatly, they got to the building too late. Restricting the posession & carryingof firearms at rural Universities like Tech & Radford is even more of an affront than at urban schools like GMU & GWU. Most of those kids grew up shooting & hunting and know more about firearms safety than the "campus police."

[kps]

when I went to school as well as college for 8 years, many students carried guns, but no ccw, but carried just the same, as well as teachers.

I remember a teacher asking me to go get their gun when they forgot to remove it from a car & didnt want to risk it being stolen while it was being worked on in mechanics class at the college, I just went got it & stuck it in my belt & gave to teacher when I got over to his building. they didnt allow students to shoot on campus, unfortunately, they had good areas that would had been a nice range, but gun carrying was ok.

1 teacher did get mad for me carrying, I had it in my coat pocket, & coat draped on the back of my chair, when he went between rows, he banged his knee hard into it & was limping rest of the class, he asked me what it was & I said its my gun he just said keep it where no one would get hurt. for me to put it in my pocket which I did in front of him. he didnt care except for banging his knee on my draping coat pocket.

I remember taking a shotgun to school to get the ejector welded, no problems from machine shop. & students were allowed to make guns, both pistols & rifles, what ever they wanted.

I finished in 1993. so at least until then it was relatively ok, & standard practice in parts of VA. never heard of problems until after people were supposed to be unarmed. things would have been alot different if some "madman" with a gun had tried that during the time I was growing up & in college. like I said alot of teaches carried, & alot of the student body, carried. I personally would have loved to seen a different version of that in the VA Tech shooting, "armed students shoot terrorist" classes resume tommorow.

Randy

[Palladin]

I finished in 1993. so at least until then it was relatively ok, & standard practice in parts of VA. never heard of problems until after people were supposed to be unarmed. things would have been alot different if some "madman" with a gun had tried that during the time I was growing up & in college. like I said alot of teaches carried, & alot of the student body, carried. I personally would have loved to seen a different version of that in the VA Tech shooting, "armed students shoot terrorist" classes resume tommorow.

Randy

+1

There will always be nutcases, but endings like at Appalachian School of Law (2002) just suit me better.

[zephyp]

The only thing which can prevent future tragedy is a return to classical American values and people decide to take responsibility for themselves and their own.