Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Let me make sure I have this right. The new restaurant procedure.
1) I cc into a restaurant.
2) I order a beer
3) I do the "Virginia Tuck"
4) I drink the beer
5) I "untuck"

Just want to be sure I'm legal.

Of course I could tuck/swig/untuck and remain tucked while chomping my burger.

If you wanted to be the first "test case"...sure. How's your lawyer?

ccbob wrote:Let me make sure I have this right. The new restaurant procedure.
1) I cc into a restaurant.
2) I order a beer
3) I do the "Virginia Tuck"
4) I drink the beer
5) I "untuck"

Just want to be sure I'm legal.

Of course I could tuck/swig/untuck and remain tucked while chomping my burger.

Once you untuck in step #5, you'd be in violation because you are under the influence of alcohol.

ProShooter wrote:

ccbob wrote:Let me make sure I have this right. The new restaurant procedure.
1) I cc into a restaurant.
2) I order a beer
3) I do the "Virginia Tuck"
4) I drink the beer
5) I "untuck"

Just want to be sure I'm legal.

Of course I could tuck/swig/untuck and remain tucked while chomping my burger.

Once you untuck in step #5, you'd be in violation because you are under the influence of alcohol.

I'll stay under .08.

There is no .08 requirement in the statute. .08 is for driving while intoxicated.

Any amount of alcohol in your system places you under its influence. Its the same level of proof as a DIP arrest.

So I am just going to say it. Mixing alcohol and guns in my viewpoint is a bad thing. What happens if you have to use your weapon in self defense. Well right off the bat you are probably more likely to miss and hit something else. Can you say liability/lawsuits? Second off if you somehow manage to hit the threat whatever it may be. What happens when you get an anti 2nd amendment prosecutor? He/she will have a field day in both the public media and the court room prosecuting a "wild, aggressive, drunk MURDERER." Think I am talking about something that will never happen? Look up the case of "Gerald Ung". While most likely he will be found not guilty. He is still paying a lot of lawyer fees, and will probably face a civil suit as well when the criminal case is over. More lawyer fees. Gerald Ung apparently only had a single drink, but the Prosecutor is playing that angle for all it is worth.

Those of us who carry are exercising our rights yes. But with those rights comes also the responsibility as well.

totes6 wrote:So I am just going to say it. Mixing alcohol and guns in my viewpoint is a bad thing. What happens if you have to use your weapon in self defense. Well right off the bat you are probably more likely to miss and hit something else. Can you say liability/lawsuits? Second off if you somehow manage to hit the threat whatever it may be. What happens when you get an anti 2nd amendment prosecutor? He/she will have a field day in both the public media and the court room prosecuting a "wild, aggressive, drunk MURDERER." Think I am talking about something that will never happen? Look up the case of "Gerald Ung". While most likely he will be found not guilty. He is still paying a lot of lawyer fees, and will probably face a civil suit as well when the criminal case is over. More lawyer fees. Gerald Ung apparently only had a single drink, but the Prosecutor is playing that angle for all it is worth.

Those of us who carry are exercising our rights yes. But with those rights comes also the responsibility as well.

I totally agree with you.
My OP was tongue in cheek. This whole open vs CC distinction is goofy IMHO.

I agree with you that the distinction is complete nonsense. The only thing this does is add a penalty when the cops arrest you for disorderly conduct or public drunkenness or DUI or some other crime. Cause if you are properly concealed then no one should know its there till the cops frisk you. It is much like many other gun laws on the books. Like wearing body armor while in the commission of a crime. Or using bullets with a "special coating" in the commission of a crime. They are just extra charges that the police and DA can tack on.
And I am glad you agree with me on mixing alcohol and firearms. Some people do and some people don't. As I said that was just my viewpoint.

times like this i miss pa. we've had cc/oc in 'bars' for years, and you can even drink.