Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

What is the deifinition of a Curio and/or Relic? Age of the firearm for Relics, right? A curio is a weapon that cannot be fired and is meant to hang on the wall? What are the specific requirements?

there is a list that the ATF puts out, of what guns are considered curio and relic. some guns even made in the 1980s such as the CZ82 are on the C&R list.

say you've got an old ww2 mauser or lee enfield. that's C&R, but if someone sporterized it, even if the work was done in the 1950s or 1960s, its not considered C&R anymore because it has been updated and modernized.

as far as age, i'm pretty sure anything 1897 and older isn't regulated by the ATF becasue its an antique. it may shoot, but its not really considered a firearm as far as the ATF is concerend.

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C&R is good because if you are a C&R holder, you can get guns shipped directly to you, not the pawn shop around the corner with an 03 FFL.

Check this thread http://vagunforum.net/curios-and-relics ... -t368.html. Maybe I should have called the thread something else. There is a brief definition and a link to the ATF C&R list. Basically if it's over 50 years old or on the C&R list or gets its value from something other than being a firearm (one of a kind, very unique, associated with someone famous) then it can be considered a C&R. Anything called a C&R can be fired, it does not have to be rendered inoperable to be C&R. Same with Antique Firearms, anything made before 1898 is considered antique and is under a set of rules different than C&R. They can still be operable though.

The important thing to remember is that even if it's considered a C&R firearm anyone can purchase it. Without a C&R license you have to transfer through a FFL holder, with a C&R it can be shipped to your door unless you live in one of the communistic states. I think CA and NJ have state laws the pre-empt shipping C&R firearms.