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It is interesting to see how our elected officials voted on this...be sure to remember it during future elections.

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Thune Amdt. No. 1618; To amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to allow citizens who have concealed carry permits from the State in which they reside to carry concealed firearms in another State that grants concealed carry permits.

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On the Amendment
07/22/2009
Senate Roll Call No. 237
111th Congress, 1st Session
By 58 yeas to 39 nays (Vote No. 237), Thune Amendment No. 1618, to amend chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to allow citizens who have concealed carry permits from the State in which they reside to carry concealed firearms in another State that grants concealed carry permits, if the individual complies with the laws of the State. (A unanimous-consent agreement was reached providing that the amendment, having failed to achieve 60 affirmative votes, be withdrawn.)

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Yea : 58 Members

Mark Begich (D-AK)
Lisa Murkowski (R-AK)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Jon Kyl (R-AZ)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Michael Bennet (D-CO)
Mark Udall (D-CO)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
Saxby Chambliss (R-GA)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Charles Grassley (R-IA)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Jim Risch (R-ID)
Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Sam Brownback (R-KS)
Pat Roberts (R-KS)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
David Vitter (R-LA)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Christopher Bond (R-MO)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Jon Tester (D-MT)
Richard Burr (R-NC)
Kay Hagan (D-NC)
Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Byron Dorgan (D-ND)
Mike Johanns (R-NE)
Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Tom Udall (D-NM)
John Ensign (R-NV)
Harry Reid (D-NV)
Tom Coburn (R-OK)
James Inhofe (R-OK)
Robert Casey (D-PA)
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
John Thune (R-SD)
Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
John Cornyn (R-TX)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Robert Bennett (R-UT)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Mark Warner (D-VA)
Jim Webb (D-VA)
Russ Feingold (D-WI)
John Barrasso (R-WY)
Michael Enzi (R-WY)

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Nay : 39 Members

Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Christopher Dodd (D-CT)
Joseph Lieberman (I-CT)
Thomas Carper (D-DE)
Ted Kaufman (D-DE)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Daniel Akaka (D-HI)
Daniel Inouye (D-HI)
Tom Harkin (D-IA)
Roland Burris (D-IL)
Richard Durbin (D-IL)
Richard Lugar (R-IN)
John Kerry (D-MA)
Benjamin Cardin (D-MD)
Carl Levin (D-MI)
Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)
Al Franken (D-MN)
Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Claire McCaskill (D-MO)
Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Charles Schumer (D-NY)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
George Voinovich (R-OH)
Jeff Merkley (D-OR)
Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Arlen Specter (D-PA)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)
Patrick Leahy (D-VT)
Bernard Sanders (I-VT)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Patty Murray (D-WA)
Herbert Kohl (D-WI)
John Rockefeller (D-WV)

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Not Voting : 3 Members

Edward Kennedy (D-MA)
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Robert Byrd (D-WV)

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The real story behind this was that the democrats knew this wasnt going to pass so they "allowed" some dems to vote YES for it. Please be aware that both our senators have their own personal and political agenda which does not line up with ours. IMHO both webb and warner are liberal twits through and through.

Amen DK,, I have no trust in either of them after several of their votes this year,,,

zephyp wrote:The real story behind this was that the democrats knew this wasnt going to pass so they "allowed" some dems to vote YES for it. Please be aware that both our senators have their own personal and political agenda which does not line up with ours. IMHO both webb and warner are liberal twits through and through.

I'm sure Warner will vote however the wind blows Virginia. But I have to disagree with you about Webb. He didn't just vote for national CCW reciprocity, he took to the floor of the Senate arguing vehemently for it. Here's one of his statements on 2A:

I’m a strong supporter of the Second Amendment; I have had a permit to carry a weapon in Virginia for a long time; I believe that it’s important; it’s important to me personally and to a lot of people in the situation that I’m in to be able to defend myself and my family."

I dont have a lot of respect for a US senator who says they support gun rights and then carries one into the capitol building. That doesnt add up. He may say he supports 2A rights and have cast some votes for it but look at his voting record in general. He is a liberal democrat. Supports health care reform and cap/trade. I dont trust him or warner.

He supports gun rights for senators and congressman ONLY.
Even Fienstein packs and she voted nay.

Ol Chukie Schumer from NY is another gun carrying anti gun for the public hypocrite who thinks it's OK for him but not for us.

VBshooter wrote:Ol Chukie Schumer from NY is another gun carrying anti gun for the public hypocrite who thinks it's OK for him but not for us.

Yup. Where do these people come up with this crap. Oh. I'm chuck schumer and I'm important. Someone might want to hurt me so I must carry a gun. Oh, you. No you're not important and if someone tries to hurt you then dial 911.