Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Yesterday, I heard something that really shocked me. A self-proclaimed 2A supporter, this person said that no one should open carry a weapon anywhere; especially tacticool rifles like AR's and AK's. Then this "aficionado" then went on to say that Califoria "recently" enacted an assault weapons ban and MANY other states are following along.

Hahahahahahaha... I couldn't believe what I heard. In the event some "expert" lays this knowledge on you... here is a little information that you can counter with.

There are "assault weapons" bans in the District of Columbia (1994), California (1989), Connecticut (1993), Hawaii (1988), Maryland (2013), Massachusetts (1993), New Jersey (1990) and New York (1994). 6 states and the district.

With the exception of Maryland, all other states and the District have had bans in place for 22 years or more. The only change in favor of banning in more than 2 decades was Maryland. A 20 year gap with 1 exception almost 5 years ago is hardly a trend. In fact, the exact opposite has been trending.

In 1986, only 1 state had unrestricted state level carry laws. Also, only 8 states would issue conceal carry permits. As of 2017, 13 states are totally unrestricted for residence. An additional 29 states allow open carry of all guns and issue CHP's to anyone that is not federal prohibited.

Going from only 9 states that allow carry to 42 states allowing pretty much anything goes, in a 31 year time period, shows that an overwhelming majority of the nation wants open carry of all weapon and conceal carry of handguns. And that support continues to grow.

And the best part is, as gun ownership has skyrocketed and almost the entire nation now allows carrying of arms, the violent crime rate and murder rate has been dropping for almost 23 years.

Fudds and non-voting conservatives are our worst enemies. And people who say "I seen" instead of "I saw", they suck also.

Some people act like there was never murder before guns were invented.

In 1994 a joint study was done with UCLA, the Social Science History Association, Temple University and the American Society of Criminology.

The study showed the university town of Oxford in the 1340's had an extraordinarily high annual murder rate of about 110 per 100,000 people. Studies of London in the first half of the 14th century determined a homicide rate of 36 to 52 per 100,000 people per year.

In contrast... at the time the study was done, the murder rate in America in 1993 was 9.3 per 100,000, just 17% of the murder rate in London in the 1340's. The homicide rate in New York City was 25.9 per 100,000, less than 1/4 the rate of Oxford more than 650 years ago.

The current national homicide rate in the US is 4.88. Here's the kicker... If we didn't have the murder rate from "gun free" Chicago, the rate would be 3.9. And if we removed Detroit and Washington DC as well, it would only be 2.9.

Anyone seeing the pattern here?

Stop using logic Marc. It only enrages them because they do not understand it. Facts be damned.

LOL.... sorry. I don't know what I was thinking.