Charlottesville

[mmckee1952]

The people who were protesting the destruction of the historic monuments in the part in Charlottesville, no matter who they were or what they believe, had a right to be there to stand for their opinion that the memorial should remain. The violence was started by the Black Lives Matter, Black Panthers, and so-called "Anti-Fa" groups.
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Free speech is protected, but the violence perpetrated, with police protection in Virginia, was not protected. Those on the Left who were attacking peaceful protesters with nail clubs, human feces, and urine balloons (all hallmarks of the Left Wing violence groups) should have been blocked by the Virginia State Police.
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The State Police allowed the violence because it satisfied a political objective of the Left!

[SHMIV]

The State Police stood by, and did nothing, because that's what they were ordered to do. Ditto for the National Guard, and any other enforcement agency that was present.

I find it interesting that the ACLU fought for protesting rights, on behalf of whatever the original group was.

Personally, I think that the whole thing was a setup. I also think that the plan failed. The original group was encouraged to protest, counter protesters were bussed in, the inevitable conflict (part of the plan) occurred... but, what was "supposed" to happen, did not occur. That conflict was "supposed" to escalate to to shooting. That's why the National Guard, and State Police were there. They were ordered to stand down so that shootings could happen. But, they never did. True, some mentally deranged individual drove his car into a crowd, but that didn't even spark the war that was "supposed" to happen.

Apparently, even hateful, racist, white people have some respect for law and order, and are capable of showing restraint.

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[M1A4ME]

Wow.

No looting.

No store windows broken.

No police cars jumped on, turned over or set on fire.

No Molotov cocktails tossed around.

Quite a bit different from the "rallies" we've seen in CA and other places when the left starts the action on their own. I wonder if the guns, in the hands of the other side, were a "calming" force to the antifa a holes?

They've been taught that police will hesitate to use guns. The folks they were there to disrupt they may not have been so sure of (maybe even a little scared of.)

[M1A4ME]

Oh, this morning, Channel 6 Richmond, reported the State Police helicopter went down after it had left Charlottesville an was on it's way to provide a part of the escort for Gov. Mac's motorcade.

The crash did not occur when they were observing/assisting the Charlottesville Police but while on their way to excort Tmac's motorcade.

They also mentioned that the helicopter had a history of issues after a serious crash 7 years ago when it was badly damaged and then rebuilt/repaired.

Why does Tmac need a State Police helicopter escorting his motorcade?

[WRW]

The first news report I heard concerning this event was that the Governor declared a State of Emergency after two people had been injured in a fight. That sounded fishy to me.

I have heard that the driver, demented though he may be, may have had less evil of motive for speeding down the road than the terrorism assigned to him so early on.

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[smltooner]

I saw an interesting video last. This man's idea on why the police stood down was interesting.
He believes that the police are using these riots, demonstrations, etc. as training exercises. I am assuming that the Charlottesville Police Dept., Albemarale Co. Police Dept., UVa Police, and Va State Police were present.
After they see what kinds of responses do and do not work, the word can be spread to police in other parts of the country. When these events happen in a different location, the local police already have in idea of what to do from past history.
I think Trump is correct when he says there are many sides to blame for the violance.

[Reverenddel]

Kelu can talk to this as well...

The whole thing was a set up, and both sides continue to fight, and argue, and the media is stoking the fires.

Ladies, and gentlemen... welcome to our Yugoslavia, Venezuela, and South Africa...

Cuz' it's ALL down hill from here... ALL of it.

[MarcSpaz]

I read an article a little while ago that said the governor and the mayor let the Atifa protesters fly the Antifa flag, downtown, across from city hall, for 30 minutes. There are even several videos of the police and mayor standing off to the side while they run it up the pole.

I have to believe we are going to have another civil war or revolution soon. There is only so much BS that conservative people will put up with before the collective feels that the government has either failed or is the problem and takes matters on themselves.

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[kelu]

Oh yeah. I smell the bullshit from a mile. I used to donate to police charities, not anymore. I have lost all respect for them.
I wrote here last summer that I see big changes ahead, and huge obstacles to pass. Almost all media is against us; fortunately now most moderates and all conservatives can see the truth. The left base is shrinking by the day, they know it and this is why they are so desperate and they resort to all this violence and hate. That's all is left in their empty bag.
I'm convinced that 80% of those "protestors" are paid activists. I'm thinking to start a project to scan photos and match them, but I don't have time. Pretty sure you will see same faces at most "protests".
You like your rights? Be prepared to fight for them. Soon, like in the next 3 years max. We are pretty old anyway, and we all die anyway. What is important is the world we left for our descendants.
What is missing yet from my general image is the military response; who they will side with.
In my country at the revolution, at first army was with the government and they killed thousands, then switched to the people and killed the dictators.

[WRW]

If, indeed, the motivation for standing down was to make a learning experience of the event, then the lesson to be learned should be that counter-protests should not be allowed in proximity to the permitted protest.

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[wittmeba]

^^^ yes...this will be next. They will have to keep the left and right from each other. Protest by yourselves without any objection. We will see where the media attends.

[WRW]

^^^ yes...this will be next. They will have to keep the left and right from each other. Protest by yourselves without any objection. We will see where the media attends.

That is how it should be. Those with permits should be the peaceful assembly, and those not having permits while protesting, or counter-protesting, are a trespassing mob.

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[kelu]

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Another event planned?
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[Reverenddel]

Yup! I can see T-Mac, and Northam starting some shiznit before the election to motivate the base.

[WRW]

Yup! I can see T-Mac, and Northam starting some shiznit before the election to motivate the base.

The run for President requires some manipulation of events, no?

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[wittmeba]

Charles Barkley really nailed it. He basically said "Most blacks have not thought 1 day about the confederate statues around this country...". Right on. Just another opportunity to mix-it-up with whites and law enforcement acting under their cause.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/natio ... uupz1MMqL/

[kelu]

It's all fake.
https://youtu.be/G8xAdPQuyPo

[skeeterss0]

Charles Barkley really nailed it. He basically said "Most blacks have not thought 1 day about the confederate statues around this country...". Right on. Just another opportunity to mix-it-up with whites and law enforcement acting under their cause.

I agree, I've never heard any complaints about the civil war statues till it became popular to demand their removal.

[WRW]

Charles Barkley really nailed it. He basically said "Most blacks have not thought 1 day about the confederate statues around this country...". Right on. Just another opportunity to mix-it-up with whites and law enforcement acting under their cause.

I agree, I've never heard any complaints about the civil war statues till it became popular to demand their removal.

Communists have a history of tearing down the statues of the previous regime, and of the counter-protesters groups communism was represented. Now, ain't that something...? Nazis protecting our statues and communists wanting to tear 'em down...on US soil?

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[Remek]

I am in agreement, this event stinks of fraud.

Its just ridiculous in nature, these people are smart enough to realize that they arent doing positive to keep the statues by showing up as these groups.

Heres a great question. Has ANYONE found any social network trail leading to the event? In todays world, nothing is carried out by telephone and word of mouth only, and, if they were so proud of their groups, it just emphasizes flagrant in your face advertizement of the event before the event.

I did a quick search and find nothing.

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