Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Appalachian culture, that is.

Huuummmm, Jelly maker? HAHAHAH

I could use a tip after watchin' the news today. LOL

Where can I get one?

Pressure gauge? Kits come with pressure gauges.

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better watch out for the coppers with something like that

jdonovan wrote:better watch out for the coppers with something like that

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Not mine; but I understand it is non-functional; just for looks. That figures, it's too purty to build a fahr inunder it.

check your humor settings, that was a pun.

I thought Art-ifact was a pun.

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Found a good source: http://www.hillbillystills.com/

jdonovan wrote:check your humor settings, that was a pun.

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That occurred to me, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was beneath you.

It'll work like that, but it'd work better with a thump-keg.

In my home country you can get them at hardware stores Probably 1/3 of households in the rural area has one.
A 60 liter one is about $1K if you buy it from store.

I think here is legal to make something like 1 gallon for personal use?

Edit, just found this:
http://www.moonshineheritage.com/blog/b ... ment-49315

no exemptions.

making beer/mash - legal
distilling and concentrating the alcohol - illegal

which is is why on all the TV shows they try to catch 'em running it, or transporting, because until then no crime has yet occurred.

http://www.hobbydistillersassociation.o ... s-by-state

If I read it right, presence of mash is a class six felony and ownership of a still is a class one misdemeanor.

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WRW wrote:http://www.hobbydistillersassociation.o ... s-by-state

If I read it right, presence of mash is a class six felony and ownership of a still is a class one misdemeanor.

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That may be the way it reads (I haven't read it)), but there is no significant difference between beer mash and whiskey mash. If memory serves, beer makers call their "mash" a "wort", and wine makers call it a "must" (assuming it has begun to ferment; in the case of beer, it is a "mash" at a prior stage when the starches are being leeched out of the grain and converted to maltose), but that is just terminology. Point is, beer/wine is just the first step in making whiskey/brandy. Long as you don't make over 100 gallons a year, possessing a beer wort or a wine must is totally legal. (Unless you are a Baptist, in which case you will surely go to hell - IF you get caught by some other Baptist who doesn't drink, that is.) So the felony of possessing a mash, I would argue, depends more upon your intent as to its use than the nature of the "mash". And there is most certainly such a thing as CORN beer, so the use of corn or some other cereal than barley doesn't mean it isn't beer in there. So the only possible difference would be that I assume whiskey mash isn't hopped. But there is also such a thing as unhopped beer; and there is such a thing as hopped whiskey. I daresay one homebrewer on a jury would get you an acquital.

On the other hand, I suppose that if you're caught with a mask/wort/must AND a distilling device, it would constitute strong evidence you was "a-fixin' to run some likker".

So...if two Baptists meet in the liquor store, can they recognize each other with a nod?

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Ultimately, it is all about the money. That is why the federal agents were called revenuers. Personally, I'm a big believer in personal consumption, and, though not a brewer of any sort, I sympathize with those that do.
BTW, I'm not a fan of the SCOTUS decision in Wickard v. Filburn:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

and I don't grow wheat, either.

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WRW wrote:So...if two Baptists meet in the liquor store, can they recognize each other with a nod?

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No, because it would be assumed by both they were there strictly for the limited purpose of checking up, on behalf of the preacher, on who was actually there to buy booze.

Don't giggle too much. I knew a local teacher and coach who used to drive from Norton to Big Stone Gap (back then there was no 4-lane and it took 30 minutes or so one way) to buy liquor just so nobody from town would see him do it. And he was a Methodist.

All your answers are contained the Code of Virginia, Title 4.1 - Alcoholic Beverage Control Act

§ 4.1-300. Illegal manufacture and bottling; penalty


Universal Citation: VA Code § 4.1-300 (2014)
A. Except as otherwise provided in §§ 4.1-200 and 4.1-201, no person shall manufacture alcoholic beverages in the Commonwealth without being licensed under this title to manufacture such alcoholic beverages. Nor shall any person, other than a brewery licensee or bottler's licensee, bottle beer for sale.

B. The presence of mash at an unlicensed distillery shall constitute manufacturing within the meaning of this section.

C. Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall be guilty of a Class 6 felony.

Code 1950, § 4-57; 1954, c. 484; 1974, c. 460; 1993, c. 866 .

§ 4.1-314. Keeping, possessing or storing still or distilling apparatus without a permit; penalty


Universal Citation: VA Code § 4.1-314 (2014)
No person shall keep, store or have in his possession any still, or distilling apparatus, without a permit from the Board.

Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

Code 1950, § 4-77; 1993, c. 866 .

There is lots more where this came from. As you might have guessed!

Edit - btw, federal law does not prohibit ownership of a distilling apparatus.