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Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 18:24:01
by MNMGoneShooting
Poor Gloomberg spent his cashola only to find out that buying off Virginia isn't as easy as first thought.



Former McAuliffe ally turns against him on gun compromise
ALANNA DURKIN RICHER, Associated Press
Feb 9, 2016 02:06 PM
RICHMOND — One of Democratic Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe's biggest donors and political allies has turned against him with an advertisement campaign condemning him for a deal he struck with GOP leaders on gun policy.

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's group Everytown for Gun Safety took out a full-page ad in the Richmond Times-Dispatch on Tuesday declaring that "Terry McAuliffe is wrong" and urging residents to pressure him to scrap the deal, which the group is portraying as a win for the gun lobby. Everytown has also been running online advertisements comparing McAuliffe to the head of the National Rifle Association.

The ad blitz comes as the Republican-controlled House prepares to vote this week on the gun legislation, which would reverse Attorney General Mark Herring's action invalidating the concealed handgun permits of residents from more than two dozen states outside of Virginia. The legislation would require the attorney general to enter into reciprocity agreements with states whose permits haven't previously been recognized in Virginia.

McAuliffe's administration is dismissing Everytown's attacks and standing by the deal, which it says as a whole will make residents safer. In exchange for the restoration of the concealed-carry reciprocity agreements, Republicans have agreed to back legislation long sought by Democrats that would prohibit people subject to a protective order from carrying firearms and require police presence at gun shows for voluntary background checks.

"The governor is disappointed that Michael Bloomberg and Everytown are engaged in a counterproductive political attack rather than building on a clear win for public safety in Virginia," said McAuliffe spokesman Brian Coy. Coy accused Everytown of trying to mislead Virginians about what the gun compromise does and said he doesn't think that an out-of-state group will succeed in preventing the legislation from getting to the governor's desk.

Everytown's newspaper ad seeks to debunk some of McAuliffe's recent claims about the gun deal, saying among other things that the legislation doesn't ensure that domestic abusers or other criminals who were already denied a permit in Virginia couldn't get one from another state.

A spokeswoman for the group declined to say how much it is spending on its ad campaign against McAuliffe.

Bloomberg has been one of McAuliffe's biggest political patrons. His political action committee was McAuliffe's single largest non-party donor during his successful 2013 gubernatorial bid. That PAC, called Independence USA, spent more than $1.7 million helping McAuliffe win and another $1.4 million helping McAuliffe's Democratic allies.

Last year, when control of the state Senate was up for grabs, Bloomberg's Everytown was the single biggest spender, pumping $2.4 million into campaigns. The massive spending did not have the desired effect, as Republicans retained their single-seat majority in the Senate.

Bloomberg has a long history of trying to influence gun laws and sales in the Old Dominion. As mayor he sent undercover investigators to Virginia and several other states posing as people who wanted to make "straw purchases" of guns intended for other people. Based on the sting operation, New York City sued dozens of gun dealers, including seven in Virginia.

Virginia's General Assembly responded by enacting a law to make gun-straw-purchase sting operations a felony.

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Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:07:49
by MarcSpaz
Should have just lit the $5.5 million on fire.

Truth is, the pro-2A people would get their way one way or another. It was in McAweful's best interest to play ball with the R's to make a compromise win for both parties.

Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:36:55
by dusterdude
This is funny lol

Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:03:12
by wittmeba
I see potential problems in lumping too many issues under one umbrella.

Reciprocity is a very distinct issue from the Gun Show matters and independent gun sales. I don't like to see a mix like this viewed as one single "deal" regardless of the outcome.

Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:25:02
by SHMIV
When I see the word "deal" in the same sentence with any word that's synonymous with the word "gun", and the names "McAuliffe" or "Herring", I find that I am suspicious, regardless of how good the initial deal looks.

I wonder what was agreed to, behind closed doors, that we haven't seen yet.

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Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:30:11
by wittmeba
SHMIV wrote:I wonder what was agreed to, behind closed doors, that we haven't seen yet.
I think we will all know March 1, 2016.

Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 01:08:44
by jjmcd
It actually "IS" a "Deal". One person offers up something that the other wants, and in exchange gets something for his needs. It's called Governance. The nose in the tent issue is trying to push the State Police to intimidate people into "Verification Checks" before transactions. This will be the point that others will have to force the stick on. What are the LIMITS of the "Influence" that the State Police will have at Firearms shows.
We are already seeing some misguided people who say that such "Checks" provide protection to the Buyer and Seller. But we have no evidence of any such benefit actually occurring. The reality, is the appearance of doing something.

Mcalliff screwed the pooch. and he did so very publicly. And now it will cost him Bloomberg support in the future.

Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:10:30
by Swampman
True, but why should he care unless he has eyes on a continued future in politics. :hysterical:

Did I really just say that outloud? :hysterical: Of course he has eyes on a continued future in politics! He'll just find another patsy to fund him.

Re: Poor Gloomberg

Posted: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 20:04:21
by Reverenddel
(expletives deleted due to a family shop)

I'm sorry, I know people keep telling me this is a "good thing", but until it's ACTIVELY working, and nothing NEGATIVE happens, I just cannot trust it.

I have been lied too SO many times, by SOOO many people. I don't trust ANY of them.