Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

My brief message to POTUS.

How many people have to die? How many 'Gun Free Zones' will you create? When will you understand the blame should not be placed on others, but yourself?

Had 1 or 2 or 5 people been carrying in this 'Gun Free Zone', the Emanuel A.M.E. Church, there may have been lives saved. The shooter reloaded 4 times. This would provide ample time for others to defend themselves, loved ones and community leaders had they been allowed to be prepared. It is possible this event may not have occurred at all.

Dylann Roof likely knew very well there would be no guns in this Church for anyone to fight back. Because of current laws Dylann had an extreme advantage and never experienced resistance. This makes everyone just another target. This condition is not even at the level of a video game where the enemy shoots back.

There are laws against drinking and driving, yet it still happens. There are laws against murder and rape, yet they still happen. What makes you think more gun laws will be honored by anyone other than those who cannot protect themselves under some present conditions?

You miss the fact that people change. This is a given and it will never change. You are attempting to design rules and laws today that will always fit our future without the knowledge of how anyone or conditions may change. Unless you can predict the future, this will never happen.

You cannot control all the guns of the world so it is likely there will always be guns in the USA regardless of any more laws you create.

You and your family are protected. Only the honorable, law abiding citizens of this country are the victims. You have disarmed the very people that could have made a difference in the outcome of this tragjc event. Hope you sleep well.

Like Al Gore is fond of saying, "A leopard doesn't change it's stripes."

But I do have a message for our beloved POTUS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERHq3OcxjTw

I imagine that our derelict POTUS sleeps like a baby.

I doubt that he has much concern about the severe damage caused by his policies. In fact, I suspect that he views those damages as victories. Perhaps, like his good comrade Bill Ayers, he looks at the damges, and says to himself, "I haven't done enough. "

I am convinced that Barry Soetoro hates this country, and every one and thing in it. His goal is to bring down the United States. Really, that's one hell of a legacy. We may find the goal to be repugnant and detestable, but the folks that Barry admires and looks up to, they will surely be impressed.

They might even have a dinner in his honor, before they remove his head with a pocket knife.

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Libs can't wrap their minds around simple logic...anything that makes sense is caveman intelligence in their brains...

i.e. Traditional family values, gender, Christian morals, American culture, gun rights - all cro-magnon thought to them.

Doing the OPPOSITE of what everyone knows - now you are "brilliant", "englightened" and "intelligent". In other words, "PROGRESSIVE".

Was it Abraham Lincoln who said if we falter, it will be because we destroyed ourselves? Seem like enough people are voting for the demise of Freedom, that they are getting their way.

I think we should have another "Great Experiment" in this land. Let get rid of all the intrusive federal code, leaving the fundamental Constitutional law in tact. Then, let's have designated Conservative and Liberal states. Each state can do whatever they want. Then, let's see what states are in ruins and which become wealthy and powerful.

Oh wait... I'm sorry. We already tried that in the late 1700's and proved Conservative principals and Freedom ( not to be confused with lawlessness) wins every time. We were the strongest, wealthiest, most innovative nation that ever was in the history of mankind. Then, the socialist agenda spread like a cancer, and now we are where we are today.

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My message to him is: You have no honor, if you have any left you will commit ritual suicide or otherwise die in what way you see fit. You are not my president, and I am ashamed of you!

MarcSpaz wrote:Was it Abraham Lincoln who said if we falter, it will be because we destroyed ourselves? Seem like enough people are voting for the demise of Freedom, that they are getting their way.

I think we should have another "Great Experiment" in this land. Let get rid of all the intrusive federal code, leaving the fundamental Constitutional law in tact. Then, let's have designated Conservative and Liberal states. Each state can do whatever they want. Then, let's see what states are in ruins and which become wealthy and powerful.[ Post made via Mobile Device ]

We did that already, it was called a "Confederacy". If you could have taken away the stain of slavery, had more mix of industry and given half the chance (no civil war against the North), who knows what could have happened.

Ron71 wrote:

MarcSpaz wrote:Was it Abraham Lincoln who said if we falter, it will be because we destroyed ourselves? Seem like enough people are voting for the demise of Freedom, that they are getting their way.

I think we should have another "Great Experiment" in this land. Let get rid of all the intrusive federal code, leaving the fundamental Constitutional law in tact. Then, let's have designated Conservative and Liberal states. Each state can do whatever they want. Then, let's see what states are in ruins and which become wealthy and powerful.[ Post made via Mobile Device ]

We did that already, it was called a "Confederacy". If you could have taken away the stain of slavery, had more mix of industry and given half the chance (no civil war against the North), who knows what could have happened.

But historically, the stain of slavery was predominantly due to Southern Democrats, not the Republicans or the folks on the Conservative side of the fence.

Slavery was such a small part of the civil war I'm surprised it even made it into the text books. It was more about rights and money, hell I read once that Lincoln even proposed a compromise that allowed slave owners to keep them at the expense of allowing federal intrusion. Don't get me wrong though slavery was bad but with the invention of the cotton gin and other machinery on the immediate horizon slavery would of become a thing of the past in a decade or two anyway. Really the notion that it was the catalyst of the civil war has done nothing but give blacks a perpetual chip on their shoulders and a guilt trip to whites.

Now if I were black I wouldn't be so angry at whites so much as angry at the Africans who sold them as slaves in the first place. Be things as they are it all balanced out because if they weren't sold as slaves in the first place they wouldn't be here in this country now. So in fact it is those "stains" of the past that is the price their ancestors paid for their freedom now. Proving once again freedom is not only not free but is stained in blood and tears.

One of the unwritten laws of the universe much like murphy's law, is the law of equivalent exchange. For everything that can be gained, there is always an equal price to be paid. Be it blood, sweat, or tears.