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I went to town yesterday open carrying. I had a lady ask me if I was going to shoot someone. I told her it was like insurance I buy. I hope I never have to us it. She just did not under stand it. She told me we don't live in the wild west get over it. I tried to explain to her that open carry and concealed carry help reduce the crime rate.. but I should have saved my breath. any ideas on how I could explain it better the next time?

I have never had a positive conversation with anyone who came at me like that. I have never talked to an anti, gave them real stats and information and gotten anything in return but more hostility.

I have an uncle who absolutely hates guns, but wanted to know what it was like to shoot one. I took him to the range, thinking he was going to be hooked. He had a great time the whole time, but still swears he will never buy one, constantly tells me I should get rid of mine because I don't need them, and regularly talks about how all firearms should be outlawed.

Its like they live in a parallel universes where its always "Opposite Day".

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Some folks you just can't reach. "Only for defense of life or limb." On the Wild West comment, "Too many times I've heard that things like that don't happen here...AFTER THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE JUST HAPPENED THERE."

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graybeard321 wrote:I went to town yesterday open carrying. I had a lady ask me if I was going to shoot someone. I told her it was like insurance I buy. I hope I never have to us it. She just did not under stand it. She told me we don't live in the wild west get over it. I tried to explain to her that open carry and concealed carry help reduce the crime rate.. but I should have saved my breath. any ideas on how I could explain it better the next time?

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Out of deference to the gentleladies who read this board, I won't post the answer that lady deserved to get. And so as not to put gun people in a bad light I wouldn't have told HER what she so badly needed to hear. But I'll swear I'm about to bust wide open for want of saying it.......

graybeard321 wrote: I had a lady ask me if I was going to shoot someone.

Your response: "Yes, quite possibly. Stand still right there for a moment?"

Yeah, I know. Honestly you will never win against people like that.
Best you can do is be sickingly nice and just move on.

I know that last comment was a joke, but please DO NOT even jokingly suggest to someone you are going to shoot someone. I spent a lot of time doing damage control when one of my employees made such a comment to another employee.

I had someone ask who I was lookin to shoot, once. He wasn't hostile about it, though. It was more of a "tongue in cheek" comment that was intended to foster conversation.

The best thing to do is just smile and be pleasant. It's the fence-sitters that we want to reach, anyway.

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I was thinking more in terms of indicating the lady's chest and asking her if she was fixin' to nurse somebody; thereby making the point that just because you have something handy doesn't mean you're hell-bent on using it. But I'd never do that because just as somebody already said, I'd brand all gun owners as crass, crude misogonysts.

I love your answer, but like you I know it would do more harm then good.. But if or when it happens again, I will think about it and it will bring a smile to my face,

Tell her this story:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -his-face/

flyingron wrote:I know that last comment was a joke, but please DO NOT even jokingly suggest to someone you are going to shoot someone. I spent a lot of time doing damage control when one of my employees made such a comment to another employee.

Just to clear things up... all joking aside... she didn't ask who, when, or for what reasons. If someone is to ask me if I am going to shoot someone, the answer Gary gave is the correct response. Why the hell would I carry a gun if I was not willing to shoot someone? And if you hang around me long enough, you may just see it happen. Seems like a reasonable response to me.

Of course, we could get into conflict avoidance and alternate resolution, but means of non-lethal solutions were obviously not part of the convo.

Her question did not deserve an answer, because it was a stupid question.

My response to her, "That's a stupid question. Have a nice day."

I'd give a short simple answer, "If the need arises."

I would of explained to her that I could pull it and kill her and there wouldn't be a thing that could stop me because we don't live in that kind of world! It may as well be the wild west!

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Dunno what I would have said, usually I'm stunned that anyone speaks to me. I just float in, and out of places now. Trying to observe things, and make no wake.

However, if questioned. I would simply say "Ma'am. I've seen things that would make you crap yourself. You need to arm yourself! Quick! Go! (shooing hand motion)"