Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

That's what you often hear from gun grabbers.
If that's the case, explain the below picture to me.
Note the date for when this weapon was in use.
I just happened to Google "matchlock". I knew that matchlock guns pre-dated flintlocks and wanted to see what one actually looked like.

Click here for the picture (it's too big)

The 1500's are definitely before the constitution.

And don't forget fully automatic weapons like the Puckle Gun, made in 1718 (73 years before the Constitution) and the Belton Flintlock, made in 1777 (10 years before the Constitution).

What about the repeating big caliber air rifle Lewis and Clark used in 1803?

It was a nice gun... but invented in 1795, after the constitution was written.

The idea is to emphasize semi-automatic and fully automatic weapons that existed before the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution. This is a means to debunk the argument "that the founders could have never imagined the power of modern weapons when they wrote the Constitution, so they must have meant flintlock muskets".

the 1st doesn't apply to electrically powered communications. and the assembly clause only applies when you have walked, rode a horse, or a train to get to the point of assembly.

the 3rd only applies to homes heated by an open hearth wood fireplace

should I go on?

There were trains in the 1790s???

George Carlin said it best when he wrote "You Don't Have Rights, You Have Privileges." He was a Conservative and a Christian... but made lots of jokes from the Liberal prospective to highlight just how retarded the Left is.

Very strong use of the F word and other curse words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-pZUQv8mjQ

AlanM wrote:There were trains in the 1790s???

yep, by about the mid 1750's.

Ok qualify the previous statement... trains traveling on wooden rails, with a length of track not exceeding 2 miles.

MarcSpaz wrote:It was a nice gun... but invented in 1795, after the constitution was written.

The idea is to emphasize semi-automatic and fully automatic weapons that existed before the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution. This is a means to debunk the argument "that the founders could have never imagined the power of modern weapons when they wrote the Constitution, so they must have meant flintlock muskets".

I have had success by asking the anti's if they really believed the Founding Fathers were so ignorant, uneducated, and shortsighted that they did not envision advancements in science, medicine, and yes....military arms.
Franklin and Jefferson were two of the smartest men to ever live, both with engineering/scientific minds. So, anti, do you really believe that the shortest, most concise amendment was written the way it was because the authors didnt think science would advance beyond 1787?

Well if that's what gun grabber mean than I be buying a cannon and a morter and see what they think of that when I fire it in the woods and they feel it 20 miles away in their home!

don't forget setting off fireworks on the 4th of July is illegal in VA... but firing your cannon is not.

Makes for some interesting discussions when the sheriffs office shows up. Even more fun when they explain to the neighbor that we were legal.

Oooh. .. good to know. I'll have to acquire a cannon, or five.

If you live in Williamsburg or Yorktown, you could probably fire your cannon off in the back yard without the neighbors noticing; cannon fire is a daily occurrence, in the colonial area. So is musket fire. At least, it is during tourist season, anyway.

It's always funny when the new neighbor from some liberal mecca moves in during the quiet months... then tourist season kicks off with several bangs an hour. They freak out.

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SHMIV wrote:It's always funny when the new neighbor from some liberal mecca moves in during the quiet months... then tourist season kicks off with several bangs an hour. They freak out.

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Probably not as much fun as when someone from up north buys a "bargain" house in the winter next to a turkey farmer's fields...
Let's just say that it's months worth of entertainment.