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Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:17:34
by dorminWS
Just got this e-mail from the Wise Co. Circuit Court Clerk:

Concealed handgun carry law may be modified if House concurs to $100
lifetime fee issued by the Virginia State Police.

http://www.wjhl.com/story/24697175/va-s ... ermit-bill

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504 ... +sum+SB608

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:36:08
by Greybeard
You think the new gov will sign this?

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:44:51
by dontreadonme
This is excellent news! I have to renew mine before the end of June. Does anybody know when this might get through the House?

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:49:05
by dorminWS
Greybeard wrote:You think the new gov will sign this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Probably not without some kind of quid pro quo. After all, he's supposed to be a big dealmaker, they say. I'd be surprised if Bill Carrico is on McAuliffe's Christmas card list, too. But then again, the democrat-controlled senate passed it. Be surprised if the house don't do so by a blowout. Maybe daGov will sign it as a giveaway sort of like all that free fancy booze and grub he's been handing out at the Governor's Mansion.

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:50:29
by dorminWS
dontreadonme wrote:This is excellent news! I have to renew mine before the end of June. Does anybody know when this might get through the House?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Unless it's emergency legislation (and so far it's not), I don't think it will, if passed, take effect until July 1.

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 15:42:49
by Taggure
Status:
01/13/14 Senate: Presented and ordered printed 14103717D
01/13/14 Senate: Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
01/27/14 Senate: Reported from Courts of Justice with substitute (14-Y 0-N)
01/27/14 Senate: Committee substitute printed 14104403D-S1
01/27/14 Senate: Rereferred to Finance
02/04/14 Senate: Reported from Finance (17-Y 0-N)
02/05/14 Senate: Constitutional reading dispensed (40-Y 0-N)
02/06/14 Senate: Read second time
02/06/14 Senate: Reading of substitute waived
02/06/14 Senate: Committee substitute agreed to 14104403D-S1
02/06/14 Senate: Engrossed by Senate - committee substitute SB608S1
02/07/14 Senate: Passed by for the day
02/10/14 Senate: Engrossment reconsidered by Senate (40-Y 0-N)
02/10/14 Senate: Passed by for the day
02/11/14 Senate: Read second time
02/11/14 Senate: Amendment by Senator Stuart withdrawn
02/11/14 Senate: Engrossed by Senate as amended SB608S1
02/11/14 Senate: Constitutional reading dispensed (39-Y 0-N 1-A)
02/11/14 Senate: Passed Senate (37-Y 3-N)
02/13/14 House: Placed on Calendar
02/13/14 House: Read first time
02/13/14 House: Referred to Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:16:08
by Kreutz
Greybeard wrote:You think the new gov will sign this?
Yes. It's an easy "look at me I don't hate guns after all (because this one really didn't change anything)" talking point in the VP debate.

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:03:26
by manisbad
dontreadonme wrote:This is excellent news! I have to renew mine before the end of June. Does anybody know when this might get through the House?
I do believe this would not be available until Jan 1 2015 if it passes the House.

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:41:55
by BlackKnight
Don't let this fool you. In 1978 I got a job as an Armed/Unarmed Security Officer and my state registration said "Indefinate" as the expiration date. A few years later the state started requiring recertifications with definate expiration dates. Everyone who had "Indefinate" expiration dates had to recertify within 2 years or lose registration. Just because they say "Lifetime Permit" now doesn't mean they won't change it later.

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:22:54
by SHMIV
When one may carry concealed without the burden of a permit, I will get excited.

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Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 22:47:42
by WRW
Why the increase in price? Currently payment covers costs. Is the State looking for a way to make a profit?

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Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:02:15
by MarcSpaz
I would think the higher cost is to help offset the future loss of income.

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Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:04:43
by Chasbo00
WRW wrote:Why the increase in price? Currently payment covers costs. Is the State looking for a way to make a profit?

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State Police do the non-resident permits and they have charged $100 for them as long as I can remember. I understand they are sated to handle the lifetime permits.

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 23:39:57
by WRW
Chasbo00 wrote:
WRW wrote:Why the increase in price? Currently payment covers costs. Is the State looking for a way to make a profit?

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State Police do the non-resident permits and they have charged $100 for them as long as I can remember. I understand they are sated to handle the lifetime permits.
Yeah, and out of State tuition costs more as well. Current costs are covering expenses as it is.

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Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:11:55
by safaridave
SHMIV wrote:When one may carry concealed without the burden of a permit, I will get excited.

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+1 ^^^^ Constitutional Carry anyone? Now THAT would make the bad guys think twice.

BadGuy- Hmmm Maybe I should rob that person

(Thinks how uncomfortable a new orifice or two would feel)

BG- I think I'll hang out in Maryland...

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 22:45:37
by Kreutz
Mine expires 1/2016, I wonder if instead of renewing it just goes lifetime, or most likely I have to pay again?

Re: Va. Senate passes lifetime CHL permit bill.

Posted: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 00:36:39
by MarcSpaz
I don't think your current permit will be grandfathered in. Your current permit is issued by the circuit court verses the new bill states the lifetime permit will be issued by the State Police.