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OMG WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!11! (again)

http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.p ... uZpEfso6mU

a storm watch for 3in of snow??

Snow is like SEX.....You never know how many "Inches" you are going to get !

EchoMirage wrote:a storm watch for 3in of snow??

Probably intended for Southeastern Virginia

EchoMirage wrote:a storm watch for 3in of snow??

We got between 3 and 4 inches last weekend and the kids were out of school ALL WEEK last week.

allingeneral wrote: We got between 3 and 4 inches last weekend and the kids were out of school ALL WEEK last week.

Similar here. Although, we got 6-7" of snow.... kids were out of school from Tues-Fri.

Obligatory.

Yes

Even us poor homeschoolers are effected because if we try to hold school the doorbell rings every 30 minutes from 8:30 am to 12 pm to "see if we are done yet" and the kids are antsy and can't concentrate anyway. Better to try to do some reading and then just send them outside. It is more effective.

All that said I need a few weeks of less interruptions. So snow could you please keep it to a minimum!

Our television provider dropped The Weather Channel and now uses another weather forecast channel. The provider was warned that the move would result in weather related deaths.

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Seems like everything's puffed up as a crisis these days. They name every storm. We were in Raleigh last week, and started home Saturday. People were texting me and telling me not to try to make the trip because of the terrible storm. We did see a couple of wrecks but I saw no excuse to blame it on a little bit of snow (one at milepost 45 or so on I-81 looked like a big one, but I can't see that the weather should have caused it). There might have been 20 miles of interstate that qualified as poor driving conditions, but the only impediment to moving at least 55 was the frakin' snow plows traveling in packs that blocked both lanes and one shoulder. Didn't even put the "Henry" into 4WD. It got colder than a banker's heart, but the snow was inconsequential.

Danged if I don't think people LIKE the idea of being snowed in and getting a weather holiday (long as the power and TV cable stays on and they don't run out of beer/hot chocolate/Pepsi), and so "wishful thinking" drives some of the "snowmageddon" mindset from the general public side, and of course "branding" of the various competing 24-hour weather/news folks sensationalizes it from the media side. So I reckon even snow contains a liberal amount of bullsh!t these days.

"Never let a good crisis go to waste" - the weather forecasting community seems to have taken that to heart.

http://www.wric.com/story/24554298/will ... it-midweek

It's about 60 degrees out here in Needles CA. 'Course, we're hauling a load up to the Gay Bay; it may be chillier up that way.

I'm dreading the drive back, what with all these predictions of snow. I hate driving in it, and I can't afford to sit in it.

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Good grief it's only a little snow! But the problem is not the snow it's the times. It used to be only those who knew how to drive in it, the fool hearty, or the crazy would drive in it. Now everyone has four wheel drive and thinks that that makes them able to drive in it and now no one can get anywhere.

I will tell yall something funny/scary. We live at the top of a slope--can't even really call it a proper hill. But on Friday when we attempted to leave the house I backed out slowly and then proceeded to slide the rest of the way down the hill on a sheet of ice....the only thing I could do was to get the engine to neutral and then put it in reverse to keep the wheels rolling and thus give me some degree of control over the direction.

We were fine and I was glad I had some understanding of how to work with ice. But still I am not looking forward to a repeat performance.......

thekinetic wrote:Good grief it's only a little snow! But the problem is not the snow it's the times. It used to be only those who knew how to drive in it, the fool hearty, or the crazy would drive in it. Now everyone has four wheel drive and thinks that that makes them able to drive in it and now no one can get anywhere.

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Yup. The woods are full of folks who've got 4WD vehicles but have no idea how to use them as such. I've had a 4WD vehicle of one description or another most of the time since 1969 or so. Under the wrong conditions, 4WD will take you into a lot of places they won't get you out of - including the grave if you are stupid or incompetent enough. As Benny Hill used to say, "a lot-o people don't know that".

The problems I see most times with 4WD relate to the fact that people don't consider braking. While it will get you going with four wheels pulling, you still have the same four wheel stopping and cornering ability as a 2WD.

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Yep, that 'go into neutral' will bring you to a stop on ice easily. With an automatic, the drive wheels keep on driving!
Momentarily locking all wheels and shifting to reverse and hitting the gas will make you stop fast too.
And if you want to ignore the snow and do the limit, get out of the ice grove everybody is driving in and straddle it. If the snow has thawed and refrozen, it'll feel like a corduroy road, but take off and stopping are comparable to dry asphalt, SOmebody two hundred yards behind you might get you though!

And try to never use the brakes and plan on steering with the drive wheels at times.
Whn it snows, we usually leave the 4wd at home and take the 2wd S-10.

WRW wrote:The problems I see most times with 4WD relate to the fact that people don't consider braking. While it will get you going with four wheels pulling, you still have the same four wheel stopping and cornering ability as a 2WD.

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This is where most people mess up on ice anyway (4 wheel drive or not). They don't seem to realize the physics of ice are different than the physics of asphalt. "An object in motion will tend to stay in motion until acted on by an equal and opposite force." Ice has much less friction than asphalt. Brakes are not as effective on ice. It is much more effective, most of the time to go slow and downshift if needed. Do not get yourself into a situation where you will need to apply hard brakes. Straight lines are your friends....curves and hills are not. My husband is from the North.....and has tried to teach me such that I can get to the doctor or the grocery store if I need to in a storm.

mamabearCali wrote:

WRW wrote:The problems I see most times with 4WD relate to the fact that people don't consider braking. While it will get you going with four wheels pulling, you still have the same four wheel stopping and cornering ability as a 2WD.

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This is where most people mess up on ice anyway (4 wheel drive or not). They don't seem to realize the physics of ice are different than the physics of asphalt. "An object in motion will tend to stay in motion until acted on by an equal and opposite force." Ice has much less friction than asphalt. Brakes are not as effective on ice. It is much more effective, most of the time to go slow and downshift if needed. Do not get yourself into a situation where you will need to apply hard brakes. Straight lines are your friends....curves and hills are not. My husband is from the North.....and has tried to teach me such that I can get to the doctor or the grocery store if I need to in a storm.

Good to hear the husband cares.

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