Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

How much damage can McAuliffe realistically do to gun ownership rights in VA, given the current political lineup in the legislature? Naturally, I'm not voting for McAuliffe, the
Obama/Bloomberg/Clinton stooge, but the polls sure don't look good for Cuccinelli.

You are correct that the assembly will keep McAuliffe in check, mostly. If there is another Sandy Hook, however, McAuliffe will use that as an opportunity to try to get more laws passed and will make a lot of noise about it. Even without an event like that, he will probably start trying to get universal background checks for all gun purchases, and other smaller laws like that to chip away at our rights. This will put the general assembly on the defensive, and it will make it harder to pass pro-gun laws. The biggest power he has is his veto authority. When Kaine was governor, he vetoed several pro-gun laws that had passed the assembly without a problem.

I've lived in VA for over 20 years now. When I first moved here, Doug Wilder (D) was the governor, and he passed the one-gun-a-month law. That was sort of the high-water mark for gun control in VA, and since then, things have mostly gotten better, slowly, year-by-year, but the next four years will not see any progress for our gun rights. Hopefully the general assembly will keep McCauliffe in check and we won't go backwards.

One of the best things about Virginia is that there is a one term limit to the governor. I remember Kaine had the arrogance of proposing a change to this to allow him to serve another term, but I think this is one of the best things we have going for us (and I wish it would be adopted for ALL elected officials). So we'll have to hold our noses for four years, and work through our state senators and delegates to keep McCaullife in check.

If McAweful! is elected say good buy to rest areas and balanced budgets. He will be all in for Obummercaresless and will burden the
Commonwealth with unfunded medicaid liabilities for the future in perpetuity.

Not to mention killing the coal industry or killing needed tax revenues that could come from oil/gas production.

Anyone know exactly how a Gov. can ban birth control? Oh sorry, that's just a lie that happens every time a Democrap opens their mouth.

T-mac also can allow the DOJ to come in, and investigate without any provocation. The AG's office can protest, but they're based on the judicial branch, The gov is the executive, and the Lt Gov is the Legislative (IE: GA senate head).


He can do quite a bit of damage in attitude, and angle for the STATE POLICE to come in, and enforce his will.

Constitutional law means nothing to liberals.It is only what they perceive.We thought we were safe here in nys.Before the safe act passed,it was down to a couple republicans who we thought had our backs,they did not and voted on a law that would make stalin proud.

I hear talk here that seems some have given up.

I just want to remind you the polls are puposefully slanted to favor McAwful. That being the case, get your butts out and vote gainst this carpet bagger, who IS gunning for YOUR rights.

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Realistically, how much damage can McAuliffe do?

Well, think about it this way:

(A) republican House
(B) democrat Senate
(C) A Chicago-school Chief executive with no principles save pandering to his "progressive"/socialist base.

So..... How much damage is Obama doing every day under very similar circumstances?

When it comes to gun rights it's chip away and win small battles meanwhile they are trying to change public perception (this is where they can do the most damage) If enough of the uneducated people believe the lies it's just a matter of time we see a major push for gun control with public support behind them we're in trouble.

On spending it's full steam ahead with any social program and tax the "wealthy" more and more. Make no mistake they are organized and calculated . I really believe they want to have everyone be the same (except them) socialism is for the people never for the socialist.

In Virginia fortunately the l legislature is in our favor but for how long? We have two Democrat Senators possibly a Democrat Governor, it's hard to say we're not turning pretty blue quickly.

I like to think that the people are smarter than electing these guys but every election I'm proven wrong. We need to hold the line until someone comes in to revitalize the base and turn this country and state around.

NOPE! You can thank the Carpetbaggin' Azzhatz from the Progressive/Communist states that have ruined their own economies, tax-base, and communities to move like a freakin' virus to a "healthy" body, and muck that up too!

Friggin' wish you needed an "invite" to move to another state! Damned freedome of movement!

Reverenddel wrote:NOPE! You can thank the Carpetbaggin' Azzhatz from the Progressive/Communist states that have ruined their own economies, tax-base, and communities to move like a freakin' virus to a "healthy" body, and muck that up too!

Friggin' wish you needed an "invite" to move to another state! Damned freedome of movement!

My thinking, too. Got me wondering which state to move to that's immune to this, and the answer, ofc, is "none." Everybody holds up Texas as such a great example, but with the continuing flood of illegals, that state is going to tip as well.

I think we ought to just cut the damn country in two, and let liberals and conservatives each take a chunk. Come back in 50 years and see who's run their half into the ground.

UnderwaterMike wrote: . Got me wondering which state to move to that's immune to this, and the answer, ofc, is "none."

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You're right. But in the Southeast, I'd have to look at Tennessee and South Carolina as having the longest "red state half-life". Of the two, I guess the climate, culture and geography of Tennessee hold the most charm for me. Closer to what I'm accustomed to. If you're from coastal Virginia, you may prefer South Carolina for the same reasons.

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UnderwaterMike wrote: . Got me wondering which state to move to that's immune to this, and the answer, ofc, is "none."

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You're right. But in the Southeast, I'd have to look at Tennessee and South Carolina as having the longest "red state half-life". Of the two, I guess the climate, culture and geography of Tennessee hold the most charm for me. Closer to what I'm accustomed to. If you're from coastal Virginia, you may prefer South Carolina for the same reasons.

According to http://freedominthe50states.org/ TN (#3) is your best bet.

I gotta confess after living here for a little less than 3 years I'm kind of bummed out VA may go the way of NY. I wanted to move out west but decided against it when I realized there may be no water there in 20 years.

Kreutz wrote:

dorminWS wrote:

UnderwaterMike wrote: . Got me wondering which state to move to that's immune to this, and the answer, ofc, is "none."

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You're right. But in the Southeast, I'd have to look at Tennessee and South Carolina as having the longest "red state half-life". Of the two, I guess the climate, culture and geography of Tennessee hold the most charm for me. Closer to what I'm accustomed to. If you're from coastal Virginia, you may prefer South Carolina for the same reasons.

According to http://freedominthe50states.org/ TN (#3) is your best bet.

I gotta confess after living here for a little less than 3 years I'm kind of bummed out VA may go the way of NY. I wanted to move out west but decided against it when I realized there may be no water there in 20 years.

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Yup, and I only have to drive 42 miles to get there.

Time to do some work people.

Convince everyone you know to vote for KC.

If you don't You'll wish you had!!

I'm trying to do my part. I've detailed a trusted associate to find good pro-gun voters and carry them to the polls. Come Tuesday, that's the only job he's got. I've also encouraged a couple of other good pro-gun people I know to do so by offering them 10 gallons of gas to help offset their expense. It's THAT important.

Buying votes with gas. Have you really fallen that far?

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SpanishInquisition wrote:Buying votes with gas. Have you really fallen that far?

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Certainly not! I am buying the services of people who will shuttle voters to the polls with gas. What could be more noble than enabling the franchise of those less fortunate? If I were trying to buy the votes directly, the time-honored method is to buy THEM with liquor. Buying actual votes with anything but liquor would be unorthodox and downright unethical. Dammit, boy, don't you know NOTHIN' about Southwest Virginia politics?

Well there's ANOTHER $15 for KC!


Backing a loser who's only political act will be to elect Obama's surogate in Virginia to change our way of life is EVER so noble.

ratherfish wrote:Well there's ANOTHER $15 for KC!


Backing a loser who's only political act will be to elect Obama's surogate in Virginia to change our way of life is EVER so noble.

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Not sure who that was directed at, ratherfish.

I'm expediting pro-gun voters to the polls to vote for the pro-gun candidate; who is Cuccinelli; so I assume you were talking to SI.

I would admonish you in the most kindly manner that at this late date additional contributions are very unlikely to get spent fast enough to have any impact on the way people vote tomorrow. Better at this point if you spend that $15 on more bullets.

SpanishInquisition wrote:Buying votes with gas. Have you really fallen that far?

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This guy

Personally, I'll probably spend a lot of gas money driving shut ins to vote for KC tomorrow! I volunteered to do so with the campaign office.

However, I did promise to contribute another 15 every time SI posted about Sarvis... That was close enough.