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if someone attempted to grab your firearm from your holster? I try to keep a close eye on who is behind me and at what distance anytime I am carrying (open or concealed) - this applies more to open carry though. No matter how vigilant you are, there is a possibility of someone sneaking up on you undetected.

Last night as I wandered around Wal-mart with my family, I had someone come a little too close for my comfort and the thought crossed my mind - what if he tried to grab my weapon from me?

I was thinking that I might have to deck him, then draw on him and hold him at bay for the authorities...

What if he succeeds in getting his hand around the grip and a wrestling match ensues? I would say that I hope that if it goes off, it will be pointed in his direction.

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I've run that scenario in my head a few times myself.. I try and keep myself positioned away from people in lines or other venues,, I also use a thumb break holster when Open Carrying, It won;t stop someone but it may slow them down just enough to get an elbow into their face and rearrange their nose or front teeth, As far as I am concerned,If someone was to try to get it ,All bets are off on this person not needing a hospital visit.. Anything it takes to keep them from getting that gun,, The only rule there is,,, win.
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Good question and probably a good reason to make sure you have a secure snap if you carry openly. For decking him then drawing to hold him at bay I'm not sure. Depending on the situation you might get charged with brandishing. I too, try to keep good situational awareness even when concealed. And I've developed good habits over the years to help me keep positive control over my weapon. Simple things like keeping a hand on your back pocket so no one picks up your wallet while you're in a crowd. If you deck the guy and he comes at you again then you have to decide are you in mortal danger or not - if he snatched your weapon then of course you are!!! If not then perhaps deck him again with a big can of tomatoes.
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I discussed this very topic in my class this weekend. I explained about carrying and situational awareness and proper holster selection regarding retention. Its something that people need to practice.
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Kinda hard to insist on personal space in a store. Believe, given the choice, I'd conceal for that.

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VBshooter wrote:I've run that scenario in my head a few times myself.. I try and keep myself positioned away from people in lines or other venues,, I also use a thumb break holster when Open Carrying, It won;t stop someone but it may slow them down just enough to get an elbow into their face and rearrange their nose or front teeth, As far as I am concerned,If someone was to try to get it ,All bets are off on this person not needing a hospital visit.. Anything it takes to keep them from getting that gun,, The only rule there is,,, win.
I'm with you Spence. A pair of shattered knee caps should keep him in place so you don't have to "brandish" while waiting for the police. Of course DK's idea of feeding him a big unopened can of 'maters is always an option...as long as you're not standing in the charmin aisle. :bangin:
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As a side note, if someone does try to grab your weapon I would follow up after the incident is resolved or during - if possible - with a call to the police. You never know some loon might call them on you. Better to get the drop on them - so to speak. And, you just might get lucky if the guy has priors by helping the cops pick up a real BG. Course it would be an added bonus if he was limping on the way to the squad car.
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I would prefer they be carried out as on a stretcher,,, If you have to react may as well put the problem out of commision so it won't continue to be one.
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VBshooter wrote:I would prefer they be carried out as on a stretcher,,, If you have to react may as well put the problem out of commision so it won't continue to be one.
This is one of my pro-gun arguments with antis that I can have civil discourse with. If you're the victim of a crime and dont deal with it (say you get mugged at gun point and you just give up your wallet) then you perpetrate the criminal's actions by letting them do it again to someone else. What if he kills the next person instead of merely taking their wallet.
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I know what you mean,, It seems an awful lot of them live in a Disneyesque little world where nothing bad will ever happen to them. And because nothing will happen to them for some reason they think we should agree and allow them to disarm us , giving the criminals another advantage,, Flawed logic at it's best,,
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Should someone be foolish enough to attempt this (and somehow draw the weapon from its holster) they would recieve at least one back elbow, a stomp to the foot and highly likely several other strikes to soft-tissue areas.
I'm not a violent person but such an act would be considered a threat to my safety and the foolish individual would be dealt with accordingly . Like someone else mentioned it'd be followed by a quick phone call to the police to have them arrested and charged with a felony!

Most of the time I carry it is in my pocket so they would have to be pretty close and/or sneak to steal my weapon(s).

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This is one of the primary reason I mostly carry concealed. It eliminates having to be totally on my guard at all times.
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If someone went for my side arm, Its gonna suck to be the other guy. and then its only get worse for that guy from there. and then im not gonna stop putting the hurt on em. I figure it this way, its him or me..if they want to deal with that. go for it. I have no problem protecting my life.
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AXEL wrote:If someone went for my side arm, Its gonna suck to be the other guy. and then its only get worse for that guy from there. and then im not gonna stop putting the hurt on em. I figure it this way, its him or me..if they want to deal with that. go for it. I have no problem protecting my life.
Ditto, but I usually carry concealed. Still have to be careful though.
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You should know how to react to the situation, and training from a certified instructor on weapon retention certainly helps with a lot of practice.
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This question highlights the simple fact that guns will do nothing for you if you're not trained. I hold a nidan ranking(second degree blackbelt) in shorinji kempo, not bragging at all , just to highlight the need for people to NOT rely totally on a gun for protection. You are never ALWAYS ready to draw,and even if you are you will never always be fast enough. If someone can sneak up on you and touch your holstered weapon,well that just proves my statement. In the event someone gets close enough to do that, they are probably close enough for you to thrust your elbow deep into their nasal cavity. I was lucky to find a really good instructor when I was 17. I studied for 15 years and then started to teach at his dojo for another 5 years before I moved. Only one time since then did I react to a person who got too close for comfort,and that was to effectivley drop a suspect using an arm locking technique that we had practiced over and over probably thousands of times over the years, my point is that when the situation arose,I implemented the technique flawlessly and without any prior thought, it was automatic,and so they say, practice makes perfect... :thumbsup:
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Think I"ll oc a dummy gun, and when someone reaches for it, let em have it, then pull your concealed weapon...snicker snicker
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2 can play the game of being sneaky...
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