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Does anyone have any experience with Hi Point firearms? They are by far the ugliest guns I have ever seen. They look like a mix between star trek and a single wide.

Hi-point rule #1 - Don't waste your time, or your $50

I have 2, their .40 pistol and their 9mm carbine. I've had no problems with them and enjoy shooting them. The pistols Hi Point makes are too heavy to carry though, IMO. You'll get opinions from both ends of the spectrum when asking about them, as you already have. My advice is check other forums and see what is being said about them. If you can locate one to shoot, try it.

I dont know why, but people love to bash them. Yeah, they may not be the sexiest gun around, but they are very functional. Besides, do you think a BG cares how sexy your gun is? He's only concerned about the business end and what it looks like. From that angle, it matters not what one looks like, just that it functions when you need to.

I had a C9, and really enjoyed it, I wouldnt mind having one again. I sold mine as it wasnt being used as much as some of the others, and I needed to boost my slush fund to help buy an XDm. The High Point is what it is, an inexpensive pistol, ugly to some, pretty accurate, will last forever thanks to it's great warranty, and it has fantastic customer service. Given it's price point, it's really hard to go wrong buying one.

Like the Kel-Tec, it needs to be fluffed and buffed, which many people dont know about doing, or dont do for whatever reason. I polished the feed ramp and did some minor tweaking on the mag lips, and afterwards it ran like a champ. I would see other folks at the range with $$$$ name brand semis jamming or having other feeding problems, and the C9 just kept eating whatever I was feeding it.

At the range, I always enjoyed laying it out on the bench along with my Sigs. Heck, it was even mistaken for an HK on more than one occasion!

If anyone wants to know more about them, here's a good forum:
http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com/Forum

The folks there are very pleasant, helpful, and dont bash any brand of firearm.

Glad to hear someone else here likes them. You basically said the same thing I've seen or heard many times over, but I think you may have forgotten something- If nothing else, you can beat the BG with them.

I have a C9 as well - I keep it close at hand so when I run out of ammo, I can throw it at 'em! In all seriousness though, I like having it for throwing in the backpack as an extra, etc... It's fairly accurate and shoots well so there's not much I can complain about.

I have been toying with the idea of buying one in 9mm and doing a torture test, sort of. I would put 1000 rounds of ammo through it and then draw my own conclusion of weather it's a good gun or not. I just don't know how to go about doing the testing, like should I fire 1000 rounds without cleaning. I certainly won't fire all rounds in one day.

My Hi Points have all been reliable and surprisingly accurate. Yes, they are about as pretty as a Glock and the slide is way heavy BUT they work and are cheap and IF they break, no worries, lifetime no-questions-asked warranty!

herohog wrote:My Hi Points have all been reliable and surprisingly accurate. Yes, they are about as pretty as a Glock and the slide is way heavy BUT they work and are cheap and IF they break, no worries, lifetime no-questions-asked warranty!

Their initial lifetime warranty only extended to the first and, maybe, the second owner. They have changed that and now it pretty much extends to first and all subsequent owners. My understanding is that the owner pays to ship it back to the factory but usually receives a magazine or two extra when the firearm is returned. The heavy slide is because they are blowback actions.

40shooter wrote:I have been toying with the idea of buying one in 9mm and doing a torture test, sort of. I would put 1000 rounds of ammo through it and then draw my own conclusion of weather it's a good gun or not. I just don't know how to go about doing the testing, like should I fire 1000 rounds without cleaning. I certainly won't fire all rounds in one day.

I did that myself a few years ago. I had a Taurus revolver I didn't care much for so I traded it, and $7.30 cash money for a C-9, a state police check, and a box of 9mm FMJ ammo. I had heard so much on the "net" about how "bad" they were I wanted to see for myself. (Before the "net" I had never even heard of Hi-Point.)

Well to make a long story shot, I put somewhere between 2,000 and 2,500 rounds through that gun. It ran like a watch. FMJ, and HP ammo. Remington-UMC, Blazer brass, American Eagle, Winchester White Box, and probably some others. In all that time I had about a half dozen malfunctions (jams). Of those, four came from one box of "range reloads."

Accuracy? Well, I never benched it, but I shot it about as well as I do most any 9mm. I can't say I can blame that on the gun. I'm a crummy shot.

People say they're ugly. I don't think the .380/9mm is much uglier than most black semi-auto's. The 40/45...well they do have that "cordless drill look." The carbines do kinda look like something from Planet of the Apes.

People say they're too big to carry. I don't know about that, at least again for the .380/9mm. I've got some pictures somewhere I took of mine next to a Makarov, and a Kel-Tec P-11. There isn't a LOT of difference. Yes, the HP is bigger but it's not so big you can't think about carrying it, at least not in my opinion. It's certainly not as big as a full sized 1911, or a 4" revolver. I also think the C-9 is quite comfortable in my hand.

I don't shoot it anymore. I got bored with it, and moved on to other things, but I keep it around. When the zombies or the blue helmets come, I'll hand it out to someone who needs a gun. It'll do the job.

I had a 9mm carbine. It was ugly but reliable and fun to shoot. Wish I had kept it. The handguns i wouldn't give you $5 a piece for them.

CajunBass wrote:The carbines do kinda look like something from Planet of the Apes.

You can change the stock on the 9mm carbines and then they won't look like something from Planet of the Apes. What's it look like with the aftermarket stock on it?

Everyone complains how big and bulky the High Points are, so when I had mine I took some side-by-side pics of it and my P239. There isnt a lot of size difference. I'm sure it was a little heavier than the 239, but I dont recall how much exactly, but it wasnt by a lot. I will agree the 45 High Point is a different animal though.

Moccasin wrote:

CajunBass wrote:The carbines do kinda look like something from Planet of the Apes.

You can change the stock on the 9mm carbines and then they won't look like something from Planet of the Apes. What's it look like with the aftermarket stock on it?

It looks like a Hi-Point that someone changed the stock on. What's your point?

CajunBass wrote:

Moccasin wrote:

CajunBass wrote:The carbines do kinda look like something from Planet of the Apes.

You can change the stock on the 9mm carbines and then they won't look like something from Planet of the Apes. What's it look like with the aftermarket stock on it?

It looks like a Hi-Point that someone changed the stock on. What's your point?

I thought it was obvious what my point was, if you don't like the looks of the Hi Point carbine it can be changed. And if you dig around a little you might find a carbine made by another company that looks like the pic I posted. Maybe I give some people too much credit, thinking they can figure these things out on their own.

First handgun I ever purchased- HiPoint .380 ACP. Out of the box, jammed first shot. Cleared the action, jammed again. Several subsequent attempts to fire the pistol proved useless. I sent the firearm back to be examined and fixed. It was returned several weeks later. They included an extra clip "for my troubles", which was nice. Back to the range. Squeezed the trigger, and bang. Looked like I was in business. Squeezed the trigger, jam. Over and over. Being new to handguns, I took the advice of the salesman at the range and purchased a different brand of ammo. Didn't solve the problem. I shipped it back to HiPoint. When it came back, again with an extra clip, I headed out to the range with high hopes. I might have gotten five rounds off before it started jamming again. I finally sent them a letter begging for a new piece, but instead I got yet another clip and what looked to be a completely rebuilt firearm. Now it shoots fine, but it took shipping it back three times for warranty work. Worth the hassle? No way.
Glad to hear others have had good experiences; maybe I've just got bad luck.

I have had several Hi-Points and never had to send any of them back. All the ones I sold back when I was a dealer never came back either. I plan to shoot mine this Sunday just because.

i have had two c-9s and if i didnt need the money to add to my funds for an ar build i wouldnt have gotten rid of the one, i personally have shot alot of guns out there, and i love it because the price point, and the warranty. that never hurts, and the only thing that i didnt really like about it was number one you couldnt get anything bigger than a 10 rd mag, and on the c-9 there is no front rail to add a laser or anything else it has to be attached to the trigger guard, ive personally open carried mine on more than one occasion as i dont mind the weight of it, i did add a limbsaver recoil grip to it and lubed it up good and clean it after every trip out to shot it but i mean as far as price and functionality i personally believe it cant be beat and unless your buying a gun off someone on the street the price def. cant be beat, and there seems to be a trend as far as only place ive really seen them was at gun shows and occasionaly on gunbroker i dont know if people just dont want anyone to know they have it so they wont sell it or what not but every person i talk to that owns one they love it, and most people that shot them or at least the people that have shot mine after they get used to the weight they love it and want to know how to get one, so personally i thought and will always think its a good investment and actually im in the market for a carbine in 9mm or 40 just to have because i do really enjoy my c-9 but thats my 2 cents, hope it helps

MrRvo wrote:i have had two c-9s and if i didnt need the money to add to my funds for an ar build i wouldnt have gotten rid of the one, i personally have shot alot of guns out there, and i love it because the price point, and the warranty. that never hurts, and the only thing that i didnt really like about it was number one you couldnt get anything bigger than a 10 rd mag, and on the c-9 there is no front rail to add a laser or anything else it has to be attached to the trigger guard, ive personally open carried mine on more than one occasion as i dont mind the weight of it, i did add a limbsaver recoil grip to it and lubed it up good and clean it after every trip out to shot it but i mean as far as price and functionality i personally believe it cant be beat and unless your buying a gun off someone on the street the price def. cant be beat, and there seems to be a trend as far as only place ive really seen them was at gun shows and occasionaly on gunbroker i dont know if people just dont want anyone to know they have it so they wont sell it or what not but every person i talk to that owns one they love it, and most people that shot them or at least the people that have shot mine after they get used to the weight they love it and want to know how to get one, so personally i thought and will always think its a good investment and actually im in the market for a carbine in 9mm or 40 just to have because i do really enjoy my c-9 but thats my 2 cents, hope it helps

Rockingham Co-op in Harrisonburg stocks Hi points--there is a new version of the carbine with a tactical stock and front rail for around $230.00

moss20 wrote:

MrRvo wrote:as far as only place ive really seen them was at gun shows and occasionaly on gunbroker i dont know if people just dont want anyone to know they have it so they wont sell it or what not

Rockingham Co-op in Harrisonburg stocks Hi points--there is a new version of the carbine with a tactical stock and front rail for around $230.00

Does anyone know of anywhere a little closer to NOVA that carries/stocks them. I can order online but the shipping & FFL fees dig into the price advantage. I would at least like to be able to handle one.