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You know, I know a ton of lawyers and many I considered friends but it is a fact that if a lawyer came to a small town and hung out a shingle if there was not another lawyer in that town, they would go broke.


Having said that, this just chaps my ass. I know in the end the guy would have won in the courts but it still chaps my ass. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/07/so ... latestnews

Jackpot justice

I'm not sure what your beef is here. I side with the teacher on this one.

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It would have been cheaper on the taxpayers if a few of them had just caught that teacher out at night and stomped his @ss every chance they got until he left town. I know if I was the night-duty town cop, I'd develop a bad case intermittent of night-blindness.

ShotgunBlast wrote:I'm not sure what your beef is here. I side with the teacher on this one.

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The man was an English teacher. What part of the subject English requires curriculum that discusses freedom and defacing the American flag in front of students. What possible point could he have been making that would have helped the earlier topic here about grammer? That is what the man should have been teaching. Not some agenda about trashing the american flag.

My beef is I respect the american flag and it chaps my ass when someone disrespects it. To do it in a classroom of students during a class that should be providing a totally differnent curriculum and then defacing the flag is using your position for dispicable intent. If you side with the teacher, we must agree to disagree.

Agree fully ,, that to me is not teaching but promoting a personal agenda. He did need an ass kicking too!!

While I suppose that the teacher has every right to stomp on our flag (if he owns it, that is), the classroom is not the place for that behaviour, regardless of the subject that's being "taught".

I hope he blows his settlement on cheap Mexican skankweed, stepped-on coke, and diseased hookers.

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Hocktl wrote:

ShotgunBlast wrote:I'm not sure what your beef is here. I side with the teacher on this one.

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The man was an English teacher. What part of the subject English requires curriculum that discusses freedom and defacing the American flag in front of students. What possible point could he have been making that would have helped the earlier topic here about grammer? That is what the man should have been teaching. Not some agenda about trashing the american flag.

My beef is I respect the american flag and it chaps my ass when someone disrespects it. To do it in a classroom of students during a class that should be providing a totally differnent curriculum and then defacing the flag is using your position for dispicable intent. If you side with the teacher, we must agree to disagree.

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Hocktl wrote:

ShotgunBlast wrote:I'm not sure what your beef is here. I side with the teacher on this one.

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The man was an English teacher. What part of the subject English requires curriculum that discusses freedom and defacing the American flag in front of students. What possible point could he have been making that would have helped the earlier topic here about grammer? That is what the man should have been teaching. Not some agenda about trashing the american flag.

My beef is I respect the american flag and it chaps my ass when someone disrespects it. To do it in a classroom of students during a class that should be providing a totally differnent curriculum and then defacing the flag is using your position for dispicable intent. If you side with the teacher, we must agree to disagree.

You're taking two separate issues and lumping them into one.

1. The teacher was unfairly let go for stomping on the flag, which he has the right to do. I agree with the teacher and this settlement that he was unfairly let go.

2. The teacher acted in what many (including me) would consider poor taste for the classroom. I don't know why an English teacher was discussing freedom, but hey, shouldn't we have more teachers discussing freedom to our children? The article doesn't mention if this discussion of freedom was part of the lesson plan or just this man's rant so I'm not going to speculate on it.

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ShotgunBlast wrote:I'm not sure what your beef is here. I side with the teacher on this one.

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The man was an English teacher. What part of the subject English requires curriculum that discusses freedom and defacing the American flag in front of students. What possible point could he have been making that would have helped the earlier topic here about grammer? That is what the man should have been teaching. Not some agenda about trashing the american flag.

My beef is I respect the american flag and it chaps my ass when someone disrespects it. To do it in a classroom of students during a class that should be providing a totally differnent curriculum and then defacing the flag is using your position for dispicable intent. If you side with the teacher, we must agree to disagree.

that is an interestign question..
in addition the courts have ruled students rights to free speech and expression can be curtailed in the interest of not disrupting the educational process; should not perhaps the same logic extend to teachers?

Shotgun, it's not THAT he stomped on the flag, it's where he chose to do it.

It's not appropriate behavior for the classroom. Had he done this at the bar on Friday night, then I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

Firing a teacher for behaving inappropriately is not unjust; but paying a large sum of taxpayer dollars to an unfit teacher certainly is.

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Exactly. He might have had a right to stomp on the flag, but it damn sure wasn't in his job description. He should have been fired for using instructional time to engage in highly controversial conduct/speech and expose his students to that.

SHMIV wrote:Shotgun, it's not THAT he stomped on the flag, it's where he chose to do it.

It's not appropriate behavior for the classroom. Had he done this at the bar on Friday night, then I'd be more inclined to agree with you.

Firing a teacher for behaving inappropriately is not unjust; but paying a large sum of taxpayer dollars to an unfit teacher certainly is.

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I can understand that people would be upset on where he did it, but once again the story is lacking in any information. Was it the teacher's idea to have a discussion about freedom? Did the students bring it up? Was there some good back-and-forth dialog or was it simply a one-sided rant? Is this guy the inspiring teacher that we see in the movies or is he a secret jihadist? We just don't know.

All we know is that a discussion about freedom was had, the teacher "stomped" on the flag (which is open to interpretation), some people got mad about that and complained, and he was let go. And this is why our teachers just stick to the script and our kids get nowhere.

"Now everyone open your books to chapter 4....."

I'm pretty sure the act of stomping the flag could have been described sufficiently well without the physical performance.

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Kids graduating (or is it more just "getting a diploma") from public school these days can't speak English properly, don't know sentence structure, can't add or subtract, and don't know history. Ask a random person to figure a 15% tip on a $20 lunch bill. Bet you can't find 5 in 20 people who can do it in their head. This guy should have been teaching English, period, end of discussion.

Part of the problem is that teachers these days spend too much time in all these touchy-feely bullshit education courses that don't teach anything of value. School systems need to start hiring people with degrees in specific subjects and tell the Education majors to go get a real education, then come back. Until that happens nothing is going to change.

One more thing . . . well maybe two . . .

http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/4/chapter-1

The article just says "high school teacher", where is the info he is an English teacher? He could also teach social studies or history as well.

In any event, meh. I've seen much much much worse in public schools. At least no one got pregnant!

Kreutz wrote:The article just says "high school teacher", where is the info he is an English teacher? He could also teach social studies or history as well.

In any event, meh. I've seen much much much worse in public schools. At least no one got pregnant!

Yeah, I can't find anything that said what he taught.

The teacher's attorney had said the teacher was not trying to be disrespectful, but was trying to generate discussion by using a powerful symbol.

I'm sure some of you will love this too.

Neither side admits wrongdoing under the terms of the arrangement. Compton will also get a letter of recommendation from the Chapin High principal, and the superintendent waives his recommendation for Compton's termination.

http://www.wltx.com/news/article/235733 ... -Stomping-