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Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:34:29
by Dragonfly
Question: I leave my weapon in the car in my driveway, wife jumps in the car to run to the store. Cop stops her, she does not know my weapon is in the glove box but cop finds it. I have a CHP she does not, can she be arrested? Has not happen but I was just wondering. I have looked everywhere for an answer.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:35:57
by allingeneral
heck yeah she can be arrested. You need to get her into the CHP club to prevent such a situation!

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:40:26
by zephyp
Yes, it does not matter who owns the gun or car. She has physical control and in the eyes of the law is responsible. I agree with Rick, get her a CHP although I'm leery about leaving anything in my car especially a gun.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:51:18
by ProShooter
She will absolutely get arrested.

and leaving a gun in an unattended car each night is not good.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:24:57
by BluemontGlock
ughym..yea...just what he said

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:02:58
by SgtBill
From a retired Cop with some brains, no ,she may or may not get arrested if the husband could be called and showed up with the CCP and some I.D. But he would in fact possibly get a lecture on the idea of leaving a weapon in the glove box depending on where he lived.
Bill :clap:

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:59:25
by ProShooter
SgtBill wrote:From a retired Cop with some brains, no ,she may or may not get arrested if the husband could be called and showed up with the CCP and some I.D. But he would in fact possibly get a lecture on the idea of leaving a weapon in the glove box depending on where he lived.
Bill :clap:

I think my retired brain still leans towards arrest.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:31:23
by jdonovan
If you get an understanding officer... perhaps she doesn't have a problem.... get someone who wants to make an 'example' of her, and a DA that sides the same way and things could go VERY badly.

This is the exact situation for which we got the Mrs. a CCW.

Plus it helps her now that she is shooting/collecting more and wants to exceed the 1 handgun per 30day rule. :clap:

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:40:52
by 40shooter
Please don't leave your handgun in your car, God forbid someone breaks into it & now your weapon is in their possesion. It's happened before, even to LEO's.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:59:43
by Dragonfly
Ya all can rest assured, I have not left a gun in the car since the early 70s when my 25 stayed locked up in the glove box. Inquisitive minds wanted to know.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:32:05
by SgtBill
ProShooter wrote:
SgtBill wrote:From a retired Cop with some brains, no ,she may or may not get arrested if the husband could be called and showed up with the CCP and some I.D. But he would in fact possibly get a lecture on the idea of leaving a weapon in the glove box depending on where he lived.
Bill :clap:

I think my retired brain still leans towards arrest.
That could be the problem, your brain is retired. LOL :wave:
Bill

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:41:33
by allingeneral
SgtBill wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
SgtBill wrote:From a retired Cop with some brains, no ,she may or may not get arrested if the husband could be called and showed up with the CCP and some I.D. But he would in fact possibly get a lecture on the idea of leaving a weapon in the glove box depending on where he lived.
Bill :clap:

I think my retired brain still leans towards arrest.
That could be the problem, your brain is retired. LOL :wave:
Bill
Now, who didn't see that coming? :)

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:03:59
by AXEL
Im going out on a limb here, but I watched the video where if your stopped, exit the vehicle while locking your doors, you can politley refuse a car search, admitt you would never agree to a search without a warrent. then if they force search your vehicle that firearm is inadmissable in court. Your loss would be your cost of a defense atty fee and court costs.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:05:54
by AXEL
probrable cause had better be a good one if they search that vehicle

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:39:37
by SgtBill
It would come under fruit's of the poison tree. If the search is illegal(the poison tree) then anything found (your gun) is the fruit from said poison tree and is inadmissable in court.
Bill

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:28:09
by AXEL
Well said SgtBill, I couldnt have said it better.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:39:24
by AXEL
Most LEO are pretty common sense, and most are just doing their jobs, then every once in a while you run into the leo with a short stick,short temper, and thats unfortunate because they give the decent leo a bad image.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:51:42
by ProShooter
SgtBill wrote:It would come under fruit's of the poison tree. If the search is illegal(the poison tree) then anything found (your gun) is the fruit from said poison tree and is inadmissable in court.
Bill
BUT, if she has an accident and it transported to the hospital, or the car is towed, or a variety of other reasons, an inventory search may be conducted and she could get stroked.

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:53:14
by ProShooter
SgtBill wrote:
ProShooter wrote:
SgtBill wrote:From a retired Cop with some brains, no ,she may or may not get arrested if the husband could be called and showed up with the CCP and some I.D. But he would in fact possibly get a lecture on the idea of leaving a weapon in the glove box depending on where he lived.
Bill :clap:

I think my retired brain still leans towards arrest.
That could be the problem, your brain is retired. LOL :wave:
Bill
well, my brain retired with a 100% conviction rate...I guess it was only fitting to retire it upon reaching perfection! :)

Re: Leaving Weapon in Glove box

Posted: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:26:20
by AXEL
true enough Proshooter, but the situation was if she was pulled over...