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I finally broke down and bought a 1911! I was at Dawsons gun store and was looking for either a walther pk380 or a navy colt. But they didn't have them so I looked at the S&W model 10 and the ruger mark III but as I was looking I saw the 1911s and amongst them was one that looked like the original GI model. After some thought and a lot of talking it up with the clerk I bought it.

It's aparently made by Kahr and has a all steel design with nice balance and weight for reduced recoil, it has a nice design that is very close to the original except where the ejector is located. And the fact it doesn't have wooden grips, which I will soon remedy.

I can't wait to shoot it!!!

Sorry for no picks but I lost the software to my camera so I can take them but can't upload them.

Well at least it was your 5th pick and you didn't go in specifically looking for one.

Congrats on your purchase!

I see it as fate, and fate said I needed a 1911 now!

I trust you'll really appreciate the trigger as well as the simplicity of the 1911 design. Check out how it works with rn as wel as jhp ammo. Sometimes they'll need to be "tuned" to reliably feed jhp. The tuning is generally polishing the feed ramp.

1911 make great CC. Congratulations!

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I'm looking for one now with not to much luck ..

GeneFrenkle wrote:I trust you'll really appreciate the trigger as well as the simplicity of the 1911 design.

Simple is not a word I would use for the 1911, but it's a fine design none the less.

GeneFrenkle wrote:Check out how it works with rn as wel as jhp ammo. Sometimes they'll need to be "tuned" to reliably feed jhp. The tuning is generally polishing the feed ramp.

Polishing the feed ramp may help, but the issue is bigger than that. When the 1911 was designed, there was only 230gr FMJ to worry about. Also, in theory a controlled feed design should be more reliable since the round is "captured" by the action at all times. I.e. it's controllably feed into the chamber; aka captured during the entire feeding process. This is in contrast to most modern handgun designs which are kinetic fed. I.e. the round is "popped" off the mag and into the chamber. There actually is a period of time between where the mag has let go of the next cartridge and it is not captured by the chamber, nor by the slide/breach. For a semi-auto its typically not a big deal, but if you have a bolt action which isn't control fed, try loading a round in any orientation but normal. It won't work because as soon as the round is let go by the mag, gravity takes over and it falls out or jams. In a semi-auto it typically happens fast enough that it's not a problem.

The original design of the 1911 is as a control fed system using 230gr FMJ. Anything that isn't that exact geometry tends to feed poorly. HPs are worse because they put a large hole/edges at the tip of the round, which just happens to be the surface that the control fed system is wanting to use (back of the cartridge is against the breech face, but the nose is sliding along the inside of the chamber). This is why so many 1911s don't feed HPs well. However, there is a simple fix and it's the most often recommended. Use Wilson Combat's mags. They were specifically designed to short circuit the control feed mechanism of the 1911 and convert it into a kinetic feed. This solves most issues.

(Gunderwood promptly cashes check from Wilson Firearms)

Kidding. Good to know. I don't own a 1911 yet. I figure that'd be the LAST handgun they'd ban considering it's "Politically correct" with a low round mag count.

Reverenddel wrote:(Gunderwood promptly cashes check from Wilson Firearms)

Kidding. Good to know. I don't own a 1911 yet. I figure that'd be the LAST handgun they'd ban considering it's "Politically correct" with a low round mag count.

Here is some more reading. I believe it's been posted before.

http://how-i-did-it.org/magazines/feeding-time.html

congrats kinetic, welcome to the club

gunderwood absolutely nailed it on the source of of the poor feeding issues. What may also help is looking for HP ammo that has a more rounded tip to it. Speer Gold Dots have worked well for me in that regard.

I have found that most people I take shooting have an easier time when using a 1911. Weight helps manage recoil, the crisp single action trigger allows them to focus more on their aim than on how hard/far they need to squeeze the trigger.

On the whole I think it's a very well rounded piece of machinery. I think everyone should own one

Congrats on the new pick up! After you fire it post a review for us!

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