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One of Obama's favorite commie pals, Van Jones, made the following statement:

“I think if President Obama came out as gay, he wouldn't lose the black vote," a cheerful Van Jones told MSNBC this afternoon.

"President Obama is not going to lose the black vote no matter what he does," he added.

Link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... s_gay.html

I wonder what made him make that comment?.



Never mind.

He's right, if you're "down low" its OK to the other brothers (who you're having sex with anyway) as its not gay if everyone agrees its not.

Chi-town bathhouse rumors have been haunting Obama from behind for years. Its almost like the rumors about his alleged gay past is drilling forth into a glory hole of truth.

Kreutz wrote:He's right, if you're "down low" its OK to the other brothers (who you're having sex with anyway) as its not gay if everyone agrees its not.

Once word gets out though, it's not down low anymore - and the black community does not tolerate homosexuals like the white community does.

Diomed wrote:

Kreutz wrote:He's right, if you're "down low" its OK to the other brothers (who you're having sex with anyway) as its not gay if everyone agrees its not.

Once word gets out though, it's not down low anymore - and the black community does not tolerate homosexuals like the white community does.

He'll just have to cover his rear from the blacks then won't he?

I think most blacks would rather see a queer black man in the White House than any white man. "He's queer? So what - he's BLACK"

allingeneral wrote:I think most blacks would rather see a queer black man in the White House than any white man. "He's queer? So what - he's BLACK"

This, sadly.

I really don't know what to make of it. I know people who are as conservative as I am pro-life, pro-capitalism, keep your bedroom out of the classroom, pro-2nd amendment, etc etc etc. Yet when it comes to Obama they are 100% blind. When we talk I tell them the bills he voted for--denying a baby born alive and viable during a late term abortion care--they look at me and say "he would never do that"....WHAT!?! He did! I mention his and Holder's fast and furious scandal--they say he was misunderstood! On every issue they have said is near and dear to them (or so they claim) they either make an excuse or flat out deny the president's record.

What is going on here? Why are they willing to exchange everything they have ever believed in for a guy with a similar melanin count in his skin.

Ask kreutz.

He plans to vote for him.

Most of us think the proposition of electing Obama AGAIN is as insane as making Biden President. Course the sane didn't vote him in in the first place. He IS doing exactly what he said he's do.

Although, a harpo Marx might be easier to deal with than a Saul Alinsky who thinks he's a hybred of Abraham Lincoln/Fidal Castro with a Jimmy Carter mind.

mamabearCali wrote:I really don't know what to make of it. I know people who are as conservative as I am pro-life, pro-capitalism, keep your bedroom out of the classroom, pro-2nd amendment, etc etc etc. Yet when it comes to Obama they are 100% blind. When we talk I tell them the bills he voted for--denying a baby born alive and viable during a late term abortion care--they look at me and say "he would never do that"....WHAT!?! He did! I mention his and Holder's fast and furious scandal--they say he was misunderstood! On every issue they have said is near and dear to them (or so they claim) they either make an excuse or flat out deny the president's record.

What is going on here? Why are they willing to exchange everything they have ever believed in for a guy with a similar melanin count in his skin.

I'm going to propose its fear of accusations of racism, a fear which has become so deeply ingrained in (most) white conservatives it might even be found etched into your genetic code by now.

The two examples you cited are factually true, but truth matters little anymore.

Perception (i.e. people may perceive me as a racist if I publicly proclaim those truths) will never let the truth take root.

Well actually the people I was speaking of have significantly more melanin in their skin than I do. So why would they be afraid of being called racist? Why can't they stick up for the things they believe in?

Look I really don't care if a person is a has purple skin tone. It is what they stand for that is important. As for being scared of being called racist as an excuse. People need to grow up. Don't play the bully's games. Do justly, love mercy, walk in humility with your creator. Everything else is details.

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Is it any less racist for a black person to discriminate against white people than vice-versa? How can it be OK for black people to have a chip on their shoulder for white folks, but reprehensible for white folks to feel the same way about black ones? I can't see any difference; and one doesn't justify the other in either case.

On the other hand, is it racist to prefer the company of people with whom you have the most in common? That would have to include skin color; if for no reason other than that it also generally means a shared culture and interests. To some extent, that seems to me to just be human nature.

Thorny issue.

As to Obama specifically, I can say with complete confidence and total honesty that if he was white as rice, I'd still regard him as a world-class screwup and a threat to our Republic and our way of life - - EVERYBODY'S way of life; be they white, black, yellow green or purple.

mamabearCali wrote:Well actually the people I was speaking of have significantly more melanin in their skin than I do. So why would they be afraid of being called racist? Why can't they stick up for the things they believe in?

An interesting twist, but I'm gonna stand by my initial idea. The narrative on race is so distorted it may be that they unconsciously consider any public criticism of our first glorious "post-racial" President possibly "racist" even without a white guilt factor, so they will not even condemn the two factual examples you gave.

Think about, was any other President in history treated with such kid gloves? No.

Kreutz wrote:

mamabearCali wrote:Well actually the people I was speaking of have significantly more melanin in their skin than I do. So why would they be afraid of being called racist? Why can't they stick up for the things they believe in?

An interesting twist, but I'm gonna stand by my initial idea. The narrative on race is so distorted it may be that they unconsciously consider any public criticism of our first glorious "post-racial" President possibly "racist" even without a white guilt factor, so they will not even condemn the two factual examples you gave.

Think about, was any other President in history treated with such kid gloves? No.

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Some folks might oberve that this allows Obama to continue to dance with the one what brung him - - - racially preferential treatment.

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I don't care who he has sex with.

Don't screw America!

As an outsider, it looks to me that something is wrong with both democrat and republican parties. Looks like very same to me, like two heads on a bicefal monster.
Please explain me: why a third party did not emerge yet? Most other countries have at least one more significant party.
I must admit, I know nothing about American politics history. And actually I don't care much about history, as I am too concerned about present.

kelu wrote:As an outsider, it looks to me that something is wrong with both democrat and republican parties. Looks like very same to me, like two heads on a bicefal monster.
Please explain me: why a third party did not emerge yet? Most other countries have at least one more significant party.
I must admit, I know nothing about American politics history. And actually I don't care much about history, as I am too concerned about present.

I agree. Third parties aren't around yet do to the long held belief that all they will do is split the vote and can never win.

I'd go for a conservative party...

Most conservatives end up voting Republican by default.

I don't believe the two parties look alike though. One is a Saul Alinsky, mob rule, socialist Maoist, bunch of teet sucking nanny staters. The other old line republicans who are almost as progressive if they're RINOS.

Join the TEA Party! Scares the sox off both!

If you vote for someone based on the color of their skin, you are a racist....................






as an aside, as I write this there is a obama/biden ad above the reply box....WTH?

I don't care if he's a homosexual. It's his policies that are screwing me.