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Figured it was worth seeing what others thought about Dr. Ron Paul.

Personally I think just about anyone would be better than who we have now. I dont normally stay up to date of the medias coverage on our government (partially because I believe that the government controlls the media) But I have been trying to follow Dr. Paul. He and I share quite a few of the same views not to mention he is a very well spoken man and has stuck to his views and not tried to varry them based on the people he is talking too.

I like a lot of what he says, too. BUT.............
(1) Many of the changes he advocates would cause VAST economic dislocation, and to mnake them any way but gradually would wreck the economy; and I'm not sure he's willing to do it gradually, AND
(2) On a few issues, he's out in nut-land, including his views of foreign policy and central banking. It's not so much that he's totally wrong about them, but he's so extreme I think his policies would be a disaster.
(3) He'd never accomplish anything because he's so "out there" on some important issues.
JMHO

dorminWS wrote:I like a lot of what he says, too. BUT.............
(1) Many of the changes he advocates would cause VAST economic dislocation, and to mnake them any way but gradually would wreck the economy; and I'm not sure he's willing to do it gradually, AND
(2) On a few issues, he's out in nut-land, including his views of foreign policy and central banking. It's not so much that he's totally wrong about them, but he's so extreme I think his policies would be a disaster.
(3) He'd never accomplish anything because he's so "out there" on some important issues.
JMHO

This!

I like him too, and I voted for him on Tuesday. Mostly because I see voting as an imperative and I could not vote for Romney in a primary. Just can't do it. I like what Paul brings to the debate and I think he keeps the other candidates more honest. I am not certain he would be a good president for the very reasons DormisWS points out.

You might want to read this thread to get a better feeling from the group on thier thoughts. I for one see him as the only one out of the 5 running for President that has a solid past so you know what you will get IF he is elected (which I highly doubt). Will I hold my nose when i pull the lever you betcha I will, but we have to get Obama out of there before he can put another justice on the Supreame Court.

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Taggure wrote:Will I hold my nose when i pull the lever you betcha I will, but we have to get Obama out of there before he can put another justice on the Supreame Court.

THIS!

one of my biggest concerns is legislating from the federal benches. i'm currently reading Mark Levin's "Men in Black". interesting examination of the federal judiciary.

mk4 wrote:

Taggure wrote:Will I hold my nose when i pull the lever you betcha I will, but we have to get Obama out of there before he can put another justice on the Supreame Court.

THIS!

one of my biggest concerns is legislating from the federal benches. i'm currently reading Mark Levin's "Men in Black". interesting examination of the federal judiciary.

That was a good read

scary, though, huh?
risking 5-4 for 4 more years is troubling.

Ron Paul strikes me as the only one who cares, whether I agree with him or not isnt that important, I can respect a mans convictions even when radically different from my own.

Newt is a full blown psycho dredged up from the 90's, Santorum seems to be vying for the role of Tomas de Torquemada, and The Romney-Bot seems to want the presidency on his resume and will say or do whatever he can to get it.

Its funny, the best "mainstream" alternative to beating Obama was chased out first...Tim Pawlenty. I think he would have won a general election but never had a chance in a primary.

Tim Pawlenty never really even got off the ground before he said "oh Hell No", and they never even gave him a chance in a debate to get his views out there.

I had hoped Herman Cain would go the distance, but after his bow out, I find myself most in line with Paul's views. I'm even somewhat sympathetic to much of his foreign policy. I think this country truly needs some real isolationism for at least a couple decades to strengthen at the core. There is a lot to be learned from history, and many an empire have fallen by stretching too far and too thin. We quite literally can't afford any more wars "of choice" or ridiculous expenditures for nation building. We can't afford to have military bases in 100+ countries when our infrastructure here at home is crumbling and our people at home are going to truly suffer under the weight of crushing debts already amassed.
We NEED smaller federal government, less military spending, and less intervening in the affairs of other nations.

Taggure wrote:Tim Pawlenty never really even got off the ground before he said "oh Hell No", and they never even gave him a chance in a debate to get his views out there.

Well, I was saying more along the lines of he was electable in a general election (as something reminiscent to me of a Yankee Republican moderate), but he did get his butt handed to him fast and early.

Wasn't it Nixon who said appeal to the base in the primary, go mainstream in the general election?

Thats why its a race to the right now, and come this fall the winner will be racing back to the center, leaving the base feeling used as always.

For the record my favorite perennial strikes me as sincere and honest counterpart to Ron Paul is Dennis Kucinich, who also never stood a chance ever.

A pocket sized man carrying a pocket sized Constitution at all times, isnt that something?

If we crap on israel like he wants to do, then we are no better than the ragheads. I do like most of his thoughts but don't think this country is ready for most of it. On a side note, I don't trust romney and his eyes deceive him.

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I can't say what my opinion of Ron Paul is.

His minions would again attack. They react like a cult.

I have done extensive research and advise all others ,who agree as I do with his fed reserve and monetary policy, to do the same. Look at his "bulletins" look at the people he gets his mailing lists from, look who supports him. I don't think many here would knowingly join that group.

If his foreign policy was implemented, we'd either no longer be an influence for good in the world or we would cease to exist.

I like Rand. From what I've seen.

"For the record my favorite perennial strikes me as sincere and honest counterpart to Ron Paul is Dennis Kucinich, who also never stood a chance ever."

Do you seek guidance from aliens with shirley too?
Splains a lot!

I do have to say (like most of you) that I dont agree with Paul on everything but you have to give it to the guy he has been saying the same stuff for years at least he has stuck to what he said so far. That is deffinately a rarity when it comes to politicians now a days. I do agree that we need change as far as actually implementing it would take considerable amount of time long after his term ended. The way I see it is we should be looking at the views of a person who we want to "lead" our country not "run" it. But lets be honest for a minute ... when all these people get up and start talking or "debating" they are answering questions how they think we want to hear them based on the crowd they are speaking to. This Dr. Paul guy still has yet to do that. IMHO I would rather someone tell me straight up than lie to me but then again what do I know.