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What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:01:01
by ratherfish
I hope we find out BEFORE the election.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2 ... a%20Mentor
"Open your hearts and open your minds to the words of Prof. Derrick Bell." Those are the words of Barack Obama in reference to the controversial racialist Derrick Bell. Prof. Charles Ogletree, Barack Obama's mentor said "We hid this throughout the 2008 campaign." As more is uncovered about Prof. Derrick Bell and his radical views, it will become clear why Prof. Ogletree wanted this video hidden.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 12:42:19
by ratherfish
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 16:27:41
by Kreutz
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... il/254213/
Breitbart.com is charging that there was a massive cover-up of the whole flap, pointing to a video of Charles Ogletree, an Obama mentor and Harvard Law professor, saying, "We hid this throughout the 2008 campaign." But this is bogus -- and not just because the video clearly shows it's a throwaway laugh line. This incident is well known. It was covered at the time, and it's been covered since. David Remnick wrote about it in his major Obama biography, The Bridge. In fact, Frontline used some of this very same footage in a 2008 documentary about Obama. It's valid to ask whether Obama was vetted as fully as he should have been, but this incident is evidence for the proposition that he was.
But for the sake of discussion, let's imagine there was a cover-up. First, one has to believe that Obama's act of introducing and praising Bell for wanting a more diverse faculty is evidence of radical leanings. Apparently, the Breitbart crew believes that the hug alone is incriminating -- hence Ogletree's alleged suppression of the embrace. But is anyone really that surprised that a young black leader at in the Harvard Law School community would be sympathetic to a call for more black faculty members? Indeed, there's evidence that Obama was not seen as a zealot on the issue by his peers. During this famously polarized time at the law school, Obama won an election to be president of the Harvard Law Review in part because he was able to earn the trust of the liberal and conservative wings of the publication.
To be sure, Bell's legal ideas are controversial, if not necessarily radical. He used fictional parables in his work, and he was a pioneer of critical race theory, a branch of law similar to literary theory that critiques what it sees as embedded racism in legal structures. But Obama doesn't address those matters in his videotaped introduction, and as a law professor at the University of Chicago, he focused on constitutional issues, not critical legal theory. A better test of Obama's own legal views would be to look at his teaching career.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:45:40
by ratherfish
Shouldn't be a problem with releasing his transcripts then huh? 2nd smartest man in the world shouldn't mind... That's second behind our self professed "hyper-literate" kreutzer.
Today's largely unreported devious ruse is offering Israel arms if they hold off on attacking Iran until after the election. Obama is a creep idealogue who intends to hold on to power at all costs. That's why Obamacare taxes don't kick in till after the election.
Yesterdays legion of lies on energy is yet another example.
Too bad you don't assimilate the text people link you to here in a vain attempt at education, but the link stated that this was the highly edited version. More to come, this is just the beginning.
This idiot is still the least known man to ever hold public office.
You don't spend millions to hide good things.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:53:52
by ratherfish
"Among his other distinctions, Bell is one of the main figures in a school of thought known as “Critical Legal Studies,” or CLS, as it’s known in legal academic circles. That is, as in the critical theory of the Frankfurt School applied to the law. Bell’s particular branch of CLS — the one dealing with race – flows from a type of thinking Bell called “racial realism” in an article published in the Connecticut Law Review right around the time that Obama was protesting in favor of his cause. Because the article is only available to subscribers (we paid for access), we can only provide screenshots of relevant paragraphs in Bell’s writing.
So what was racial realism? Bell explains:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/reveale ... ard-video/
Bell’s usage of the word “liberal” here is deceptive — he is not talking about modern liberalism, but instead about classical liberalism, a philosophy associated with John Locke, John Stuart Mill and even the Founding Fathers. And lest this is unclear from the above quote, consider this set of remarks further on in the same article:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/reveale ... ard-video/
In other words, Bell could care less what the law actually says — as far as he’s concerned, that’s irrelevant. What matters is making sure the right legal results are achieved"
He is fundamentally against the rule of law and the Constitution in favor of a "social justice" standard.
Black liberation theology...AKA Marxism!
Naaaaaaaah...THAT"S NOT RADICAL!
You can't be as sold out to Obama as you appear to be....oh wait, I forgot you stand to make a killing off Obamacare.
Nevermind.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:02:22
by Jakeiscrazy
Not buying the "hiding" stuff but either way the associations with the guy is what matters.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:35:34
by ratherfish
He's paid millions to hide virtually every aspect of his past.
Give me a break!
The Mystery Of Barack Obama Continues
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclus ... continues/
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:51:56
by ratherfish
Barack Obama has spent (or had spent for him) between $1.8 million and $3.2 million in legal fees to keep his personal records secret. These include his birth certificate, his college records and all else that could provide more insight into his past.
But why? Who spends that kind of money to keep their records hidden unless they have something to hide? And if someone (especially a political figure, not to mention a sitting president) is willing to go to such lengths, it is reasonable to believe he has something to hide. It is reasonable to believe that whatever it is they are hiding would be damning if revealed. What could it be that Obama is so fearful of having revealed?
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:53:45
by Kreutz
ratherfish wrote:You can't be as sold out to Obama as you appear to be....oh wait, I forgot you stand to make a killing off Obamacare.
Nevermind.
I'm going to explain this to you in the simplest language I can.
A) yes, yes I do stand to make a small fortune....regardless of who wins. That is irrelevant.
B) I actually do not "like" Barack Obama. You are right there for once.
I chose the lesser of two evils (to me) in 2008. Now, I am not so sure. This is not to say I have one kind word for Romney; the white Obama.
Part of me is concerned for his rampant spending and the disastrous effects on liberty he will have if elected to a second term, particularly the spending and the Supreme Court appointments. Now, here is the part I know you're going to have a a hard time with...
That being said what if thats a good thing? The other part of me cant help but wonder if things must get worse before they get better. This country is fading
fast.
I don't know, I suspect Obama Part 2 may be the final nail, and I'm not sure how I feel about it. Is this country salvageable? Or should it be allowed to die? Which is better? Beats me.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 18:56:18
by Kreutz
Jakeiscrazy wrote:Not buying the "hiding" stuff but either way the associations with the guy is what matters.
IMO criticisms should be factual, something Breitbart has always had a problem with, he's never shied away from some editing to make things seem as they are not.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 19:03:36
by ratherfish
Not at all to the extent you do sonny!
"A) yes, yes I do stand to make a small fortune....regardless of who wins. That is irrelevant."
Obamacare and the onerous data collection requirements of the regulations to implement it are the means of your fortune.
That could NEVER be "irrelevant"!
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 19:07:31
by ratherfish
" I'm only a beggar-man whom nobody owns."
OWNED!
Multiple SSAN#'s are a sure fire sign of fraud.
why does your man Obama have so many?
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 21:06:40
by Wallace
I am reporting this discussion to
http://www.attackwatch.net
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 21:08:16
by mamabearCali
I am about 90% certain he is hiding some very damaging things. Everything is so nebulous about him, so white washed. He was a college prof...where are his students? Surely one of them said "Hey I know that guy!" and then writes a book or at least a magazine interview. Why does he spring forth like Athena fully formed in Chicago 15 or so years ago. He was a "community organizer"...what did he accomplish as such? What wonderful services did he help bring to those he worked with? Where are his college roomates? Who knew him when he was a teenager?
The way he acts makes me wonder if he got into this because he was told it was a good gig. He seems to have no joy in being an American and does not seem to understand common Americans. He whines all the time when he is forced to do his job. He does not seem to understand basic constitutional law such as the Bill of Rights and separation of power.
So I ask again. Who is this guy? Love him or hate him, everyone knew everything about GW--you knew what you were getting. Last election the MSM (with the possible exception of Fox) was so in love with him that we learned precious little about him. What we did find out was disconcerting at minimum. The people should know who they are electing. It is important.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 22:05:21
by Kreutz
ratherfish wrote:" I'm only a beggar-man whom nobody owns."
OWNED!
Multiple SSAN#'s are a sure fire sign of fraud.
Oh man, look, if you're gonna obsess over me to the degree you start spazzing out over a song lyric in my signature, I may have to tell my wife about you, because she's getting some competition it seems.
Protip: I like it rough. Think carefully before you pursue this further.
mamabearCali wrote:I am about 90% certain he is hiding some very damaging things. Everything is so nebulous about him, so white washed. He was a college prof...where are his students? Surely one of them said "Hey I know that guy!" and then writes a book or at least a magazine interview. Why does he spring forth like Athena fully formed in Chicago 15 or so years ago. He was a "community organizer"...what did he accomplish as such? What wonderful services did he help bring to those he worked with? Where are his college roomates? Who knew him when he was a teenager?
His backstory is odd, odder still is why until now did I never give it a thought? OK, so he was in Indonesia for awhile, but he came back to the US....then ????? then community organizer. Then ?????????...then senator (how did that happen so easily?)....then Prez.
The way he acts makes me wonder if he got into this because he was told it was a good gig. He seems to have no joy in being an American and does not seem to understand common Americans. He whines all the time when he is forced to do his job. He does not seem to understand basic constitutional law such as the Bill of Rights and separation of power.
For a Constitutional scholar he does seem to have some knowledge gaps on that one.
So I ask again. Who is this guy? Love him or hate him, everyone knew everything about GW--you knew what you were getting. Last election the MSM (with the possible exception of Fox) was so in love with him that we learned precious little about him. What we did find out was disconcerting at minimum. The people should know who they are electing. It is important.
These are actually really good questions, ones I never was given cause to think before. Strange.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 01:00:18
by SHMIV
Kreutz wrote:
These are actually really good questions, ones I never was given cause to think before. Strange.
Kreutz, I'm surprised that you haven't thought about these things before now.
I might suggest that if you have someone running for the office of President, that is sufficient cause to raise damn near any question that you can think of in regards to the guy who is running. Especially when the questions pertain to his background.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 10:10:07
by dorminWS
Seems to me ya'll have overlooked one of the biggest questions about Obama's history:
How did this poor community organizer become independently wealthy?
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:20:36
by tursiops
dorminWS wrote:Seems to me ya'll have overlooked one of the biggest questions about Obama's history:
How did this poor community organizer become independently wealthy?
Most of his income/wealth appears to be from book royalties.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 11:22:27
by dorminWS
tursiops wrote:dorminWS wrote:Seems to me ya'll have overlooked one of the biggest questions about Obama's history:
How did this poor community organizer become independently wealthy?
Most of his income/wealth appears to be from book royalties.
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I'd be interested to know if somebody like Mr. Ayers or Mr. Soros bought any books by the truckload.
Re: What else did they "hide"
Posted: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 12:18:46
by ratherfish
OOOOOOO
"Protip: I like it rough. Think carefully before you pursue this further."
I have to bow out. LOL
The "hyper-literate" second rate coder scared me out of pursuing my thread....
Buddy I don't really react well to threats. I wonder how management feels about them?
Seems a "hyper-literate" troll should be able to stick to a topic. Now back to it...
In response to dormin; Another very good question is who financed his education, and funded his travel to areas forbidden to travel by the State Dept.
Anyone blind to these questions is not only a kool aide drinker but must now be on a kool aide intravenous drip.