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I've heard a lot about the Utah Concealed Carry permit. I guess it's the most widely accepted throughout the United States? Do they have reciprocity with a bunch of other states or what? Someone please tell me why I should get a Utah CC permit.

Although there are many states that will recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit, the State of Utah has formal reciprocity with the following states (Click on the name of the state for further information):

Alabama
Alaska
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Mississippi
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
Washington State
West Virginia

The following states recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit. (Click on the name of the state for further information):

Arizona
Arkansas
Delaware
Idaho
Indiana
Kentucky
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
Nevada
New Mexico
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Vermont
Wyoming

info provided by http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html

Permits/Licenses That Virginia Honors

Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
Florida
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
New Mexico
North Carolina
Ohio
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Washington
West Virginia
Wyoming

info provided by http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Guess this is my long way of saying by getting an Utah permit you will pickup these states

Alabama
Colorado
Georgia
New Hampshire
North Dakota
South Dakota
Delaware
Idaho
Indiana
Nevada
Vermont

As the only company in the Richmond area that offers the Utah class, I can say that its a great permit to have. We do a monthly Utah class right here in Richmond at Bass Pro.

So, if I have a Virginia permit (I do) and I get a Utah permit... Do the agreements that these two permits represent mean that I can cross state lines with virtually the same concealed weapons guidelines across those states? I'd like to see this laid out on a map with green states and red states so that I know which state lines are "safe" to cross.

If you travel, you need to follow the laws of the state you are traveling through....just like driving.

picking up vermont isn't a big deal. anyone who's of age, not intoxicated, and isn't prohibited from having firearms can conceal in vermont. you don't even need to have identification on you, resident of that state or not. in alaska at least you needt o have a government-issued ID on you when you conceal

i hear you can do the whole thing on the net, just like taking the virginia concealed class online these days by watching an online video, then doing some questions. i mean i'd take a class if i were interested and someone was teaching it locally, but for those not living in the richmond area, something online would be good, if such a class exists for the utah permit. i know you never actually have to go to utah, it can be done in the mail.

Are we saying get a Utah permit in addition to Virginia, or instead of Virginia?

I am also curious if I had the Utah permit, and was pulled for a routine stop on the highway in Virginia as a Virginia resident, would the fact I was a Utah CC permit holder show up on the first page of the information system LE officers use in their cars like it does currently if I had a VA CCW permit?

Is the Utah class at Bass Pro a 5 hour class? Any prerequisites to take the class.

My wife and I are planning to take a Utah class from my FFL in the next few months.

If anyone is interested in his information drop me a note and I will give you his contact information.

jigray3 wrote:Are we saying get a Utah permit in addition to Virginia, or instead of Virginia?

I am also curious if I had the Utah permit, and was pulled for a routine stop on the highway in Virginia as a Virginia resident, would the fact I was a Utah CC permit holder show up on the first page of the information system LE officers use in their cars like it does currently if I had a VA CCW permit?

Is the Utah class at Bass Pro a 5 hour class? Any prerequisites to take the class.

I think we're saying to get the Utah in addition to your Virginia permit.

I would guess that a Utah permit will not show up if you got pulled over since the VSP has no record of a Utah permit - they only track VA permits. That's all speculative though, certainly not cited by any specific source.

I believe you can get your Utah permit from member ProShooters here on the board.
http://vagunforum.net/proactive-shooter ... ining-f33/

allingeneral wrote:I've heard a lot about the Utah Concealed Carry permit. I guess it's the most widely accepted throughout the United States? Do they have reciprocity with a bunch of other states or what? Someone please tell me why I should get a Utah CC permit.

A very good site to get reciprocal info is http://www.handgunlaw.us. If you are looking for a Utah class in NOVAish (Stafford) check out http://www.4permits.com

VAJay wrote:Although there are many states that will recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit, the State of Utah has formal reciprocity with the following states (Click on the name of the state for further information):

Alabama
Alaska
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Louisiana
Mississippi
New Hampshire
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Texas
Virginia
Washington State
West Virginia

The following states recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit. (Click on the name of the state for further information):

Arizona
Arkansas
Delaware
Idaho
Indiana
Kentucky
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
Nevada
New Mexico
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Vermont
Wyoming

info provided by http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html

You forgot one thing....some of the states you have listed honor Utah, but only for Utah residents. Some states out there do not honor non-resident permits.

So I count 35 states you can carry in with the VA and UT permits (if all listed UT states accept non-resident UT permit)
Not bad

Is there a schedule that people who are giving/taking a UT permit class could post here?
TIA

SELFDEFENSE wrote:Is there a schedule that people who are giving/taking a UT permit class could post here?
TIA

From the Proactive Shooters website at http://www.proactiveshooters.com

Register for the Utah CC Class here

This is the course required to apply for a
Utah non-resident concealed firearm permit (application form)
Fee - $79.95
This class is currently scheduled for:
Sunday, April 19, 2009 from 10am - 4pm - Bass Pro Shops, Richmond
Sunday, May 3, 2009 from 10am - 4pm - Bass Pro Shops, Richmond

Proactive Shooters now offers the “Utah Course”. Concealed carry enthusiasts know that the Utah non-resident concealed firearm permit is the permit to have. If you travel for business or pleasure, now you can maintain your personal safety across the country. This is a 6 hour class (classroom lecture only) and the cost is $79.95. The Utah non-resident concealed firearm permit is the most widely accepted non-resident permit in the United States. This class follows the training outline mandated by the State of Utah, Bureau of Criminal Identification and covers many different aspects of firearms safety and ownership, as well as Utah law. A student manual, certificate, and fingerprint card will be provided. This class is classroom lecture only as Utah does not require any live fire qualification.

General:

Does it appear that UT is going to require in-person application in UT in the near future?

SELFDEFENSE wrote:General:

Dies it appear that UT is going to require in-person application in UT in the near future?

Sorry, I don't know the answer to that. I don't keep track of Utah legislation. However, I think that since you would be applying for a "Non-resident" Utah CC permit - I can't imagine that in-person application would be required.

Here is what the Virginia State Police website lists as valid
for those holding Virginia Resident Permits.



Listing of states with which Virginia has Reciprocity Agreements
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Alaska
Florida
Kentucky
Mississippi
North Carolina
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
West Virginia



Listing of states with which Virginia has mutual recognition (Jurisdictions honor permits issued by the other):
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Arizona
Arkansas
Louisiana
New Mexico
Michigan
Missouri
Montana
Oklahoma
Utah




Listing of states of which Virginia will grant recognition to valid permit holders:

Although Virginia will grant recognition, these states may not
authorize Virginia permit holders to possess a firearm in their state.
You will need to contact each state to determine if they will recognize your Virginia permit.
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Minnesota
Washington
Wyoming

Here are the official states listed with a Utah Permit.







In accordance with U.C.A. 76-10-523, Utah will honor a permit to carry a concealed firearm issued by another state or county.

Although there are many states that will recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit, the State of Utah has formal reciprocity with the following states (Click on the name of the state for further information):

* Alabama
* Alaska
* Colorado
* Florida
* Georgia
* Louisiana
* Mississippi
* New Hampshire
* North Carolina
* North Dakota
* Ohio
* Pennsylvania
* South Dakota
* Texas
* Virginia
* Washington State
* West Virginia

The following states recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit. (Click on the name of the state for further information):

* Arizona
* Arkansas
* Delaware
* Idaho
* Indiana
* Kentucky
* Michigan
* Minnesota
* Missouri
* Montana
* Nevada
* New Mexico
* Oklahoma
* Tennessee
* Vermont
* Wyoming

The following states DO NOT recognize the Utah concealed firearm permit. (Click on the name of the state for further information - not all states have links):

* California
* Connecticut
* Hawaii
* Illinois
* Iowa
* Kansas
* Maine
* Maryland
* Massachusetts
* Nebraska
* New Jersey
* New York
* Oregon
* Rhode Island
* South Carolina
* Wisconsin