Virginia - Will you surrender you GUN?

[Purdune]

And life goes on for everyone else (aka the majority). Sounds to me like the majority isn't such a bad place to be.

Again, you can do as you please, as can I. I don't forsee 1984 happening anytime soon, and if it does, it won't last forever.

People are amazed when they find out Hitler was voted into office by legitimate vote. It's partially the idea that things won't get too bad or we can take care of it latter. Some just want to hear what they want to hear. Can't happen in the good ole USA. Tell that to Americans of Japanese decent in 1942. Oh and he was a Progressive president too.

Oh and you are way, way wrong on your assertion about a small minority in the Revolutionary war. It's a poor skew of numbers. Sure you can say the Continental Army was X+Z (militia)/Y (population)=small %. That doesn't take into account that Z was different people depending on what location the battle was fought. You didn't have militia men going from NY to MD to fight. They stayed near there homes. Your also not taking into account all the farmers, merchantmen, and and such that supported the war effort. Give me numbers or give your minority argument death!

I do understand your point of view. I'll bite my tongue on what words I'd call it as I don't know you well nor know just how serious you are if push were to come to shove. I for one want the "wars" to stay at the ballet box. I've got kids and a good life. Nothing I want more. I however believe if we loose the US Constitution that all goes away. Too many crap hole places in the world that prove it.

[Kreutz]

People are amazed when they find out Hitler was voted into office by legitimate vote. It's partially the idea that things won't get too bad or we can take care of it latter.

I am aware of this, I'll do you one better, he was the first politician to make air travel a big part of his campaigning.

Oh and you are way, way wrong on your assertion about a small minority in the Revolutionary war. It's a poor skew of numbers. Sure you can say the Continental Army was X+Z (militia)/Y (population)=small %.

Yes, that is what I said.

That doesn't take into account that Z was different people depending on what location the battle was fought. You didn't have militia men going from NY to MD to fight. They stayed near there homes. Your also not taking into account all the farmers, merchantmen, and and such that supported the war effort. Give me numbers or give your minority argument death!

Ah, but how is this applicable today? Then you were dealing with a largely homogeneous populace with long-standing animosity towards the Crown.

Now you're dealing with a large segment of the populace dependent upon the government you just declared war on, who are not the same background as you, and likely have wildly different views than you, and may not even speak English.

Not analogous at all to the past.

I do understand your point of view. I'll bite my tongue on what words I'd call it as I don't know you well nor know just how serious you are if push were to come to shove.

I won't be shoved because I won't attract a push.

I for one want the "wars" to stay at the ballet box. I've got kids and a good life. Nothing I want more.

Can't disagree with you there.

I however believe if we loose the US Constitution that all goes away. Too many crap hole places in the world that prove it.

Ah, we'll get there anyway irregardless. Detroit is the future of it all.