Court Upholds Expulsion of Student Who Opposes Homosexuality

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Re: Court Upholds Expulsion of Student Who Opposes Homosexuality

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zephyp wrote:But, you get my point...we cant win souls for Christ that way...we must woo those who will be wooed and be mindful of casting pearls before swine...lest they be trampled.
Agreed.

(And don't forget, God has no tolerance for false prophets.)

Deuteronomy 13:1-5
If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.

Jeremiah 14:14-15
Then the LORD said to me, "The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I have not sent them or appointed them or spoken to them. They are prophesying to you false visions, divinations, idolatries and the delusions of their own minds. Therefore, this is what the LORD says about the prophets who are prophesying in my name: I did not send them, yet they are saying, 'No sword or famine will touch this land.' Those same prophets will perish by sword and famine.

2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
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Re: Court Upholds Expulsion of Student Who Opposes Homosexuality

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Indeed but bring them on -- the false prophets...just means we are getting closer...and closer...time is winding down.
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...

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Re: Court Upholds Expulsion of Student Who Opposes Homosexuality

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zephyp wrote:Ok, I missed something. If she must as part of her counseling duties hold their hand and tell them explicitly that its ok to be gay and that God wont hold it against them then she should shake the dust from her feet and leave it behind without a backwards glance.

I truly believe there are more ways than one to get the Gospel spread but I dont see anyway around this one...and we should never compromise our beliefs as Christians.

And, I agree. A public university has no business taking this position. But it has and no matter how loudly we protest they will persevere...the good news is not for long...
I'll quote myself from page 2. The policy clearly forbids reparative/conversion therapy of which her Christian approach was a part of. Since she refused to provide this GAT (what the ACA prescribes as the only acceptable therapy AFAIK), she was removed from the program. She was offered a chance to get back into the program if she "saw the errors of her ways," but she refused.
gunderwood wrote:Here is the official position the university has implemented through the ACA:
During the third session of counseling, a client reports that he is gay and states, "I want to change my way of life and not be gay anymore. It's not just that I don't want to act on my sexual attraction to men. I don't want to be attracted to them at all except for as friends. I want to change my life so I can get married to a woman and have children with her." At the suggestion of a friend, the client has read about reparative/conversion therapy and has researched this approach on the Internet. He is convinced this is the route he wants to take.

The counselor listens carefully to what the client has to say, asks appropriate questions and engages in a clinically appropriate discussion. The counselor informs the client that, although she is happy to continue working with him, she does not believe reparative/conversion therapy is effective and no empirical support exists for the approach. She further states that this form of therapy can actually be harmful to clients, so she will not offer this as a treatment. The client says he is disappointed that the counselor will not honor his wishes. He then asks for a referral to another counselor or therapist who will work with him to "change his sexual orientation."
The university and the ACA have determined that a Christian approach to counseling a homosexual is not allowed and can not be tolerated. So yes, the university is being intolerant of her religious views (so is the ACA, but they are a private organization so while I disagree, I will defend their ability to do so).
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