Or if you have a buttload of cash to spend, try a Knight XV, haha...
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 15:27:41
by jrswanson1
M35A2 Deuce, available in running condition for around $4500. A guy in Maryland sells them.
Jim
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 21:38:30
by CowboyT
OK, so how're you going to feed these monsters? Biodiesel?
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 23:08:02
by grumpyMSG
Well, actually you can run diesels on various vegetable oils, one city ran some recycled oils from fryers in their buses and the rumor was as they pulled away from bus stops they smelled like french fries. M35A2s are multifuel engine they are capable of running on gasoline, unlike most diesels. If you do have to do that you do have to mix a little engine oil in to lubricate the injection pump. Another potential source for fuel for a diesel is home heating fuel. They have basic electrical systems, not computer controlled engines and transmissions where the brain or sensors die and so does the truck, like the FMTVs (Army Cabovers) and the Marines new 7 ton Oshkosh trucks. That would be one of the problems with most vehicles manufactured after about 1990 and that includes the little Toyotas and Wranglers. It would take computers to troubleshoot most problems. The plus side to owning a Chevrolet or Ford is there are a lot of parts out there for them, so they might be repairable for a little while, whereas the diesel trucks with mechanical controlled injection would last longer...
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:22:53
by jrswanson1
CowboyT wrote:OK, so how're you going to feed these monsters? Biodiesel?
Yup. Every McDonald's is a source of fuel! Which is kind of the point of this little exercise, isn't it? And think about this, everyone will be swiping food. Who's going to be looting stores for cooking oil? Plus that sumbich'll run any where and probably push through road blocks and it has no electronics.
It comes without an engine/transmission, so you can put what you like in it. I recommend a Cummins 4BT diesel with a NV4500 behind it.
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:39:44
by Kreutz
Ya'all can putz around in the dirt, I'm flying first class:
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 03:12:23
by CowboyT
Look at my 4x4, my 4x4 is amazing!
Yes, it had to be done.
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:19:48
by allingeneral
Maybe we should be more concerned with where we'll find fuel than what we'll be using to get us around. No matter what vehicle you choose, you'll need fuel - and you'll likely have to fight someone for it.
I was thinking that I might set up shop at the local Sheetz - kinda take ownership of the place - knowhatimean?
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:35:56
by meak99
allingeneral wrote:Maybe we should be more concerned with where we'll find fuel than what we'll be using to get us around. No matter what vehicle you choose, you'll need fuel - and you'll likely have to fight someone for it.
I was thinking that I might set up shop at the local Sheetz - kinda take ownership of the place - knowhatimean?
Great idea. Not only will you have control over the fuel, you'll have access to all the Shmuffins and Shmiscuits too!
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:58:44
by Kuda
irishshootist wrote:I think just about anything from Icon motors will work. They make tricked out Jeep CJ-3s and Toyota Land Cruiser FJ45s. icon4x4.com
The downside is you have about $100k tied up in them. They are sweet though!
You can find some solid LR Defenders out there, old jeeps, suburbans...anything before computers killed the car. The best option to have is a diesel engine, at least you have the option of raiding the used frier oil at every McD's, BK, Wendy's, and KFC.
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 13:05:14
by allingeneral
meak99 wrote:
allingeneral wrote:Maybe we should be more concerned with where we'll find fuel than what we'll be using to get us around. No matter what vehicle you choose, you'll need fuel - and you'll likely have to fight someone for it.
I was thinking that I might set up shop at the local Sheetz - kinda take ownership of the place - knowhatimean?
Great idea. Not only will you have control over the fuel, you'll have access to all the Shmuffins and Shmiscuits too!
'Zactly! So, you're in? lol
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:00:26
by acguy45
Kuda wrote:You can find some solid LR Defenders out there, old jeeps, suburbans...anything before computers killed the car
+1 for the old school trucks.
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Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:41:39
by grumpyMSG
Kuda wrote:
You can find some solid LR Defenders out there, old jeeps, suburbans...anything before computers killed the car. The best option to have is a diesel engine, at least you have the option of raiding the used frier oil at every McD's, BK, Wendy's, and KFC.
I've got some bad news for you on the Defenders, I had the opportunity to serve with some British in Iraq and a Land Rover aint the most reliable transportation. Lucas electrical components aren't very good. As one of the jokes go about Britain, "You know why the British drink warm beer? Because Lucas makes refrigeration too. They did like the diesel variants better than the gas variants, but they still would rather have had more of our HMMWVs.
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:27:29
by zephyp
No thanks...I'll primarily be driving my LPCs...anyone with a vehicle of fuel will automatically be a target...
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 22:31:15
by Eutaw
Urban Assault Vehicle. Bill Murray invaded the USSR and rescued POWs. AND scored. That is my first choice.
Last choice-
Re: Collapse of Society 4x4
Posted: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 00:40:02
by kanata67
allingeneral wrote:
meak99 wrote:
allingeneral wrote:Maybe we should be more concerned with where we'll find fuel than what we'll be using to get us around. No matter what vehicle you choose, you'll need fuel - and you'll likely have to fight someone for it.
I was thinking that I might set up shop at the local Sheetz - kinda take ownership of the place - knowhatimean?
Great idea. Not only will you have control over the fuel, you'll have access to all the Shmuffins and Shmiscuits too!
'Zactly! So, you're in? lol
he he ... he said Shmuffins...
how about an old unimog? made by mercedes, built to last, absurd gearing, pto, and can be outfitted in a variety of ways. slow as crap though.