Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

gunderwood wrote:

zephyp wrote:@Garrett - you misquoted me...I think you got the quote tags screwed up...humidity may be the least important but if you are going to consistently make shots at the ranges we're discussing all the variables matter. Just sayin.

Ya, that was a typo. Of course you have to account for many things. The issue I had was when you said that dope didn't include things like wind, etc. Dope is more than basic drop. Basic drop is what most people start learning first which is why you see most of the discussions explaining just that. After that, people buy log books or make their own and tend to not ask a lot of questions. Thus, while dope includes many things not just basic drop, it often isn't asked about much because those of us who know how to do it don't post on forums asking how to calc dope.

When you say cartridge dope to me that includes much: MV, velocity/energy at set intervals, bullet weight, bullet type, ballistic coefficient, TOF at set intervals, drop, etc, etc, etc...these are generally set and fixed variables for a specific cartridge. Using those and other parms (wind, etc) you can determine POA.

Gotta go. The early bird gets the worm...

Used to hunt them with handguns in Oklahoma when I was in the service. Used a .41 single action revolver which was too much IMO. It wasn't much of a challenge, but it was something to do and most landowners out there were happy to have us and some would join us. We'd just go out near a trash dump and wait for them to show up. The governor of AZ recently shot a coyote that came after his dog with a .380 for what it's worth.

They're small scrawny things and can be hunted in VA during any firearms season...like feral pigs.

We have seen them on my street in Alexandria (near Huntley Meadows Park) and I saw one up by the local supermarket in a vacant lot early one morning. They will attack small children if they get bold enough so it's best to keep plinkin' at them so they stay wary.

38superfan wrote:

They're small scrawny things and can be hunted in VA during any firearms season..:

They can be hunted day or night, anytime of the year except on Sunday. The any firearms seasons only apply to game lands owned by the state.

38superfan wrote:Used to hunt them with handguns in Oklahoma when I was in the service. Used a .41 single action revolver which was too much IMO. It wasn't much of a challenge, but it was something to do and most landowners out there were happy to have us and some would join us. We'd just go out near a trash dump and wait for them to show up. The governor of AZ recently shot a coyote that came after his dog with a .380 for what it's worth.

They're small scrawny things and can be hunted in VA during any firearms season...like feral pigs.

We have seen them on my street in Alexandria (near Huntley Meadows Park) and I saw one up by the local supermarket in a vacant lot early one morning. They will attack small children if they get bold enough so it's best to keep plinkin' at them so they stay wary.

That wasnt the AZ gov...some other state..TX I think...

Whooo Hoooo!!!

It looks like Powder Valley just got a shipment of VV N550 in! Ordered me 10lbs for my varmint gun. Finally, I'll be able to shoot it like it was meant to be shot. Nothin like loading up 73-75gr of N550 in a 300WSM to push a 110VMax or 125BT for a varmint gun. I only have one ground hog this year because I couldn't find that powder. Tried a few things and H4350 came close, but nothing worked as well as N550 in that gun.

zephyp wrote:That wasnt the AZ gov...some other state..TX I think...

Yeah, it was Perry. Used a LCP as I recall...

Hanover has them. Pop snipes them with a bolt action .22 Magnum.

Does the VDGIF still pay a bounty on their hides? Coyotes, not liberals...

Reverenddel wrote:Hanover has them. Pop snipes them with a bolt action .22 Magnum.

Does the VDGIF still pay a bounty on their hides? Coyotes, not liberals...

You wont find a liberal politician around here...they're all headed for the hills afraid obama might stump for them...

zephyp wrote:

OakRidgeStars wrote:With all the pork in Washington these days, a little bacon might just bring them.

Nah. We used to hunt them out in AZ. They love little squishy things. Hook up an electronic dying rabbit call and sit back. You could see them coming in on your position from all directions. Take your pick. Shoot them at 400 yards to test your skill or wait until they were close. The cattle ranchers loved us. Here in VA its tough to get someone to let you hunt your property. Out there all you had to do was knock on a rancher's door with a rifle slung and ask "excuse me sir, have you seen any coyotes today?"

Soooo...moseying along your thinking maybe we should send them each a squealing baby piglet.

I agree that they're suckers for dying rabbit calls. A rabbit may not be much for a 'yote but they love easy "snacks".

I live in Surry county and last year I had one wandering around my yard.

i had a large gray fox chase one of my cats under the porch last week. needless to say i dispached the varmint. the next night i saw another out in the garden, got away before i could get him! iv'e never saw a fox do this, anyone else? russ

Seen them in Campbell, Bedford, Amherst and Appomattox counties.

I have a nose for foxes - I can smell them from a distance. We have a few that sniff around our house in Ashburn VIllage as well. If you can smell the musk, it's likely a fox, not a coyote.

I have seen more coyote in the last 6 months around Ashburn Village and the rest of Loudoun County than I have seen the decade I've lived here.

Speaking of Ashburn, I also got a nose for cougars.

Gotta ask, is there a point to shooting these things? Or is it somehow just "fun"?

Seems a popular activity in many states, never knew why.

No point in it as long as you don't mind a rabid animal attacking your pets, children, spouse, or you!

Kreutz wrote:Gotta ask, is there a point to shooting these things? Or is it somehow just "fun"?

Seems a popular activity in many states, never knew why.

Like most varmint, they are pests. Some people keep the fur.

Yarddawg wrote:No point in it as long as you don't mind a rabid animal attacking your pets, children, spouse, or you!

100% of them have rabies? That seems unlikely.

And my understanding is they're rather afraid of people and avoid them. And if the occasional poodle gets chomped on, great, we need less of those damned things in our country anyway.

Its just the whole shooting things for fun part I can't get. Unless you've caught one just about to snack on Fifi or Timmy, I have to venture you're killing it for pleasure. They have every right to be here too and all that crap.

Here is a statement from the Maryland DNR web site.

Coyotes + Pet loss is similar to biological impacts in that no management scheme is available to address general, widespread problems. However, localized situations involving livestock loss can be addressed and problems either alleviated or resolved. After depredations have occurred, studies document that spot removal of offending animals is the most efficient solution.

http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/predator-management.php