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During the 1787 Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made that would allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison rejected it, saying, "A union of the states containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a state would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound."

In fact, the ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said they held the right to resume powers delegated should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought they could not regain their sovereignty -- in a word, secede.

FiremanBob wrote:Walter Williams (whom the racist SJWs consider a Caucasian) has an excellent, short essay on the stupidity of the anti-flaggers: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://townhall.com/columnists/walterew ... s/walterew ... e-n2024814</a><!-- m -->

A taste:

During the 1787 Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made that would allow the federal government to suppress a seceding state. James Madison rejected it, saying, "A union of the states containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a state would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound."

In fact, the ratification documents of Virginia, New York and Rhode Island explicitly said they held the right to resume powers delegated should the federal government become abusive of those powers. The Constitution never would have been ratified if states thought they could not regain their sovereignty -- in a word, secede.

SHMIV wrote:An article on raising the Confederate flag :


http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-confe ... ot-lowered

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scott9050 wrote:http://www.wral.com/nc-bill-to-shield-m ... /14775325/

On Monday evening a family in Chesterfield County, Virginia was on their property waving large Confederate flags as motor vehicles passed them by on the rural divided highway they live off of.

The family says a man pulled in their driveway, got out of his SUV, pulled a gun, chambered a round and then pointed the gun at the father’s head. After mouthing off the gunman got back in his SUV and drove away without firing a shot.

MarcSpaz wrote:I'm with you Rev. That dude would have been dropped by me or my son... Maybe both. Either way, he wouldn't have gone home.

I noticed that the article left race of the parties involved out of the story. I wonder why? [/sarcasm]

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The War of 1861 brutally established that states could not secede. We are still living with its effects. Because states cannot secede, the federal government can run roughshod over the U.S. Constitution's limitations of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. States have little or no response.

thekinetic wrote:
No race = black

I would of hanged them from the flagpole!

Swampman wrote:Ya gotta love Walter!

The War of 1861 brutally established that states could not secede. We are still living with its effects. Because states cannot secede, the federal government can run roughshod over the U.S. Constitution's limitations of the Ninth and Tenth Amendments. States have little or no response.

Never quite heard it put that way.

Swampman wrote:Hope you guys won't hold my northern roots against me. I wasn't around then.

SHMIV wrote:I reckon that it's time to get some apparel that features the Confederate flag. This level of Confederphobia has exceeded ridiculous and hit the level of offensive.

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