This is my concern about legalizing drugs. When those drugs were legal we did not have the large saftey net that we do now. If you chose to spend your life on drugs then you felt the consequences of your choices as you did not have $$ for food and housing. Live as yiu choose, but don't expect me to pay for your drugs and your food if you make such foolish decisions.
Now if we can address that, then I think that we could do better to decriminalize some of it and out the other stuff (the explosive stuff like meth or other super dangerous ones) in the confiscation/treatment category. The war on drugs though has been wholly ineffective and at minimum we need to change tactics.
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mamabearCali wrote:This is my concern about legalizing drugs. When those drugs were legal we did not have the large saftey net that we do now. If you chose to spend your life on drugs then you felt the consequences of your choices as you did not have $$ for food and housing. Live as yiu choose, but don't expect me to pay for your drugs and your food if you make such foolish decisions.
Now if we can address that, then I think that we could do better to decriminalize some of it and out the other stuff (the explosive stuff like meth or other super dangerous ones) in the confiscation/treatment category. The war on drugs though has been wholly ineffective and at minimum we need to change tactics.
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I completely understand your concern and it does have some validity to it. Makes sense to me. My mom is tired of ringing up customers buying lobster and frozen shrimp and using their EBT card. People abuse government handout programs. The thing is that government doesn't operate under a structured priority list to solve our problems (we're doing this first, and only after that's fixed will we tackle this, then this, then that) and if it's ok to legalize drugs only after handout programs are cleaned up, drug legalization will never happen. A lot of these issues are intertwined with many moving parts, but just because it's harder to move one part (cleaning up handout programs) doesn't mean you stop progress on everything else.
I want to add that if we are going to act in the interests of "freedom" then if they are free to do drugs I wish to retain my right to say that drug abuse is dangerous, foolish, and ill advised of people intending on living more an 22 years. It has seemed to me that those so often crying freedom freedom for gay marriage/ drug use want to curtail my freedom of speech to decry such behavior.
Live as you want but don't force me to pay for it or to give you a gold star for your choices.
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mamabearCali wrote:I want to add that if we are going to act in the interests of "freedom" then if they are free to do drugs I wish to retain my right to say that drug abuse is dangerous, foolish, and ill advised of people intending on living more an 22 years. It has seemed to me that those so often crying freedom freedom for gay marriage/ drug use want to curtail my freedom of speech to decry such behavior.
Live as you want but don't force me to pay for it or to give you a gold star for your choices.
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Absolutely. That just comes under basic freedom of speech. Don't let anyone guilt you into not speaking up for your position. The uphill battle is that many people that have those positions (no drug use, no gay marriage, etc) don't stop at decrying such behavior; they want to outright ban such practices. While you have a softer approach to the issues, how do you craft your message so that you can still speak your position without getting lumped in with the banners? And once you have crafted that message, how do you defend it against the social conservatives that say you're a soft RINO and want you out of the Republican party? This is why I like the Libertarian party. I can be with a group of like-minded people on the issues and one part of that group isn't trying to kick the other part out.
I tend to have a "live and let live" approach to these social issues. If someone wants to do drugs, whatever. If someone doesn't want to do drugs, whatever. Some may say that because I have that approach I don't have a sense of values or morals. Others may say that without that judgement (not having the need to decry something) it gives me a true sense of what freedom is. Who knows. Whatever.
If libertarians dote in their kisses on the cheek to liberals...gay marage and legalizing drugs to name a two, they will be side by side with the conservatives in the re-education camps.
Wake up folks.
Free people cannot exist in a society that isn't educated and moral because education and morality allow them to participate as citizens of the republic, able to shoulder their responsabilities at the ballot box. Just look what the progressive dumbing down of our society hath wrought.
That is exactly what pogressives have been changing for over 50 years with control of education system and taking morality and natural law out of the laws of the land through the court system.
Libertarians and conservatives agree on constitutionalism and originalism interpreting the constitution. That is a lot of agreement. How about concentrating on that while we're still free to vote?
All are nothing will only get you nothing as in a big O!
There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, in the end, 'Thy will be done.'
-C. S. Lewis