The price of gas.

[joeshmo]

Carrying a weaon to protect yourself from the police??? Weird
Sounds like someone should not have a CHP.

[CCFan]

Is it hard for you to understand? Taxes are a requirement forced on you by an external entity that involves you doing something; i.e. paying them under force of law.

Being required to by health insurance....is the same thing. In both cases your capital must leave you and go somewhere else. In both cases failing to do so will warrant further monetary penalties. Just because one is old and one is new does not change the principle. They are fundamentally identical.

I don't even know where to begin with your distorted view of property ownership and responsibilities in a sovereign nation versus a mandate that you purchase a "product" (if you can even call it that) by virtue of being an expiring carbon based lifeform.

The idea of paying taxes as a property owner I'm OK with - supposedly, by paying my taxes for the value of something I own (land) by virtue of it being geographically located within the physical boundaries set forth by the governing body (in this case, the commonwealth of Virginia) would be beneficial to me as a resident and land owner in Virginia by those tax dollars being spent on keeping our commonwealth governed.

Now, just because a law was signed into effect, you're basically saying it's OK if it's mandated that they take money from me and go spend it forcing everyone to buy time away from their job to go stand outside and fart at 11:00 a.m on the third Thursday of every month, because it's under the threat of law. There is nothing fundamentally identical in the two ideas. The idea of paying taxes based on worth (i.e. landowners, employers, etc) has been around forever. Even Jesus said "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's..." In the US, the biggest chunk of our tax dollars should be spent on the defense of our nation. Not social programs. The idea that we all have the same opportunity has been perverted into "we must make everyone equals" - by handing out tax credits to people who don't pay, and by forcing a government mandate that one must purchase health insurance. I don't mind paying taxes to support the government in a free society. (Mind you, I'm not saying my taxes are being wisely spent at all, about 70% of what they spend it on should be ditched, IMO...) I do mind the government telling me what I have to spend my money on.

Back to the original post....

The dollar today won't buy nearly as much as it did several years ago. The price of gas is higher as is nearly every other thing on the market today. Inflation is a bear, and the more money we print, the worse it's going to get.

Time to stock up on another few cases of 7.62x54R....

[SHMIV]

On health insurance and property tax:

Paying a tax on your property is not the same thing as being forced to purchase a service.

That's like saying that a trip to the grocery store is the same thing as a trip to the car wash because you have spent money at both places; really, though, one item is necessary while the other is a personal choice.

[ratherfish]

Might be a good learning experience for kreutz to tell us the average "evil oil company" profit (after expenses), and the average tax revenue from a gallon of gas.

It's pretty obvious who has the highest monetary interest in high gas prices.

Obama's laughing all the way to the Saul Alinsky bank!

[OleMan]

Might be a good learning experience for kreutz to tell us the average "evil oil company" profit (after expenses), and the average tax revenue from a gallon of gas.

It's pretty obvious who has the highest monetary interest in high gas prices.

Obama's laughing all the way to the Saul Alinsky bank!

OMG, don't ask him to look up facts. He'll put on his hat give us more links to treehugger.com and then 'splain them with 500 pejorative paragraphs. Then RIck will have to buy more hard drives for his servers.

Then, if you disagree or don't accept his imputations of what you said, he'll address you as 'Dude' and think he is being lucid.

[joeshmo]

Funny about the whole fact thing.... 13 times the Cuyahoga River caught fire he stated . Even the ohio historical society could only account for 8. 1969 being the largest and the others insignificant.

[ratherfish]

ALL prior to the CWA and EPA.

[OakRidgeStars]

Remember in November

[SHMIV]

Remember in November

Someone was just telling me about that sticker, yesterday. It was seen in Newport News. I'm guessing that these stickers are getting popular around Hampton Roads.

[joeshmo]

3.65 Is cheap!!! Could someone point me in the direction of that station?

[Kreutz]

Funny about the whole fact thing.... 13 times the Cuyahoga River caught fire he stated . Even the ohio historical society could only account for 8. 1969 being the largest and the others insignificant.

So if I'm wrong you only call me out for it for overestimating, but ignore the other guy who says it caught fire only once for underestimating because you agree with him?

Well, I wouldn't expect anything approaching integrity from ya, so, I can't say I'm disappointed.

[Kreutz]

Remember in November

The price of gas is far more complex than whoever holds the Presidency. Similar spikes were seen under Dubya, who had to open our strategic petroleum reserve...which also did nothing.

This was going to happen regardless of who had won in 2008. Actually it may have been worse since John "Get off My Lawn" McCain may have nuked Iran on day one.

Not good for supply in a world with ever increasing demand.

I know "Blame Obama" is the new Gospel, but in this one area it just doesn't fit.

Sorry?

[Kreutz]

Yup yup yup....

We-unz can't all idolize eugenics...duh....the leadership of Hitler...ahuuuuuh... and carry a weapon to protect ourselves from the police like you Mr. Kreutz sir.........

Eugenics was born not far from my home in Cold Spring Harbor NY, decades before Herr Hitler even grew his first 'stache.

And I'm not a cop. So, uh, yeah.

Now... lie about being set up to make a killing off Obamacare....

Why would I lie? I as previously stated, vote with my wallet. How come its OK for the Koch brothers to do it but not me? Double standards much?

So yeah, I'm already salivating for 2014 when meaningful use stage 2 becomes law...and the full provisions of the Affordable Care Act kick in? Adding tens of millions of shiny new insured patients? With years of untreated chronic medical conditions? AND icd-10 will (maybe?) be implemented giving me more training and chargemaster kung-fu work?

Sheeeeeit negro!

I'm already overworked at 7 days a week, I'm gonna need a 15 day workweek! I may even hire another employee! Job creation! Thanks Obama!

But hey, I spend the money I earn, which you know...spreads it around.

The basis for a free market economy right?

[joeshmo]

Funny about the whole fact thing.... 13 times the Cuyahoga River caught fire he stated . Even the ohio historical society could only account for 8. 1969 being the largest and the others insignificant.

So if I'm wrong you only call me out for it for overestimating, but ignore the other guy who says it caught fire only once for underestimating because you agree with him?

Well, I wouldn't expect anything approaching integrity from ya, so, I can't say I'm disappointed.

I was not overestimating. You said it caught fire 13 times. If you are going to state facts back them up and dont pull them out of the air. Have any facts from the other fires besides tree hugger.com? Bet ya dont. From what I gather you are nothing but a troll that enjoys surfing this forum and others and contibute nothing of any value. Integrety? lol. Kreutz -1.

[Kreutz]

I was not overestimating. You said it caught fire 13 times. If you are going to state facts back them up and dont pull them out of the air. Have any facts from the other fires besides tree hugger.com? Bet ya dont. From what I gather you are nothing but a troll that enjoys surfing this forum and others and contibute nothing of any value. Integrety? lol. Kreutz -1.

read it again. I did say it caught fire 13 times. Ratherfish said it caught fire ONCE (in all caps).

Yet you only seem offended by my being wrong if you are correct it was 8.

You ignore the other guy for being wrong too (because if it was 8, well, then we're both wrong aren't we?) because you dislike me, which is disingenuous.

[Kreutz]

Might be a good learning experience for kreutz to tell us the average "evil oil company" profit (after expenses), and the average tax revenue from a gallon of gas.

I would like to know when I have ever said "evil oil company". Ever.

When I get that I'll happily answer on the subject of oil company profits.

It's pretty obvious who has the highest monetary interest in high gas prices.

Obama's laughing all the way to the Saul Alinsky bank!

I cannot respond to what I have no idea it is you're talking about.

[joeshmo]

I was not overestimating. You said it caught fire 13 times. If you are going to state facts back them up and dont pull them out of the air. Have any facts from the other fires besides tree hugger.com? Bet ya dont. From what I gather you are nothing but a troll that enjoys surfing this forum and others and contibute nothing of any value. Integrety? lol. Kreutz -1.

read it again. I did say it caught fire 13 times. Ratherfish said it caught fire ONCE (in all caps).

Yet you only seem offended by my being wrong if you are correct it was 8.

You ignore the other guy for being wrong too (because if it was 8, well, then we're both wrong aren't we?) because you dislike me, which is disingenuous.

Point is you do nothing but disagree with everone (and just not this site). Quit rambling, quoting ect... Do your research son. Bet you cant even find a reputable link that states it caught fire 8 time. Most notable it caught on fire once. The ohio historical socity stated they think it caught fire 8 times at best. You said it caught fire 13 times wich is completely false. Fish was correct with the most ever notable event was it catching on fire once. Move on...........

One other thing- you said "I dislike you". Grow up. Do yourself a favor and quit rambling. Everyone is sick of it. You think you are right about everything.

[allingeneral]

Alrighty, fellas. methinks this has gone far enough off topic for now. Let's lock it up here and move on...