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Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:54:30
by fireman836
Answer on form "None ya" as in none of your business. My doctor has never asked, although the first time I went to his office after I started carrying, I locked my handgun in my car safe. When he saw my empty holster we got to talking guns, and he gave me an application to join the gun club he's a member of. :clap:

PS I'm jealous of his collection.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:54:06
by larry3100
I have several in my home..at least 2 within reach from my recliner and no less than 4 within 5 ft of my bed

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 00:55:49
by Diomed
Rumson wrote:Tell them yes and ask what the recommended amount of practice rounds per month should be..

Then tell them the American Medical Association published an article that states 225,000 deaths a year in hospitals due to "latrogenic causes"

References here.

http://www.cancure.org/medical_errors.htm

Edit to change negligent to latrogenic causes..
I believe the term you're looking for is "iatrogenic".

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 13:01:48
by dorminWS
Cute. they don't use such obscure, indirect, downright misdirecting terms when they're attacking your gun ownership, tobacco use, or that you drink a sody pop now and again.
----d@mned hypocrites!

Definition of IATROGENIC

: induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures <an iatrogenic rash>
— iat·ro·gen·e·sis noun
— iat·ro·gen·i·cal·ly adverb

Origin of IATROGENIC

Greek iatros physician + English -genic
First Known Use: 1924

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 20:30:15
by gibbs1911
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/13/fl ... bout-guns/

According to other websites it is against the law for doctors to ask about guns period. But I have heard story's about attempted intimidation and refusell of services even though it violates the doctors oath. Or maybe they don't do the oath thing anymore.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 19:58:26
by seeknulfind
Isn't that interesting? The article gibbs1911 points to mentions general safety issues such as swimming pools. According to this:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1470565/

Drowning is a leading cause of death among US youths. In 2002, 1158 youths younger than 20 years died as a result of an unintentional non–boat-related drowning.1 Additionally, more than 300 youths aged 20 to 24 years drowned that year.

So... why isn't there a question asking about pools at home?

Andy

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 05:43:50
by vooduchkn
I personally think this is a question that should not be on a standard form from a doctors office. To me this is an invasion of privacy and somewhat unconstitutional under the 4th and 5th. Granted, this is how I interpret it, but IANAL.

Sadly, I think we will all see this coming on everything from doctors forms to school registration.

Vote in 2012

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:01:41
by wylde007
Doctors offices are private entities and can ask whatever questions they want. The Constitution protects rights of the people from GOVERNMENT intrusion.

You have the right to decline to answer, but you do not have the right not to be offended.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:58:37
by larry3100
unless you had taken someone in for a gunshot wound....why should they care??

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 10:20:32
by ThePig
In all the years I have been hauling my children to the doctor, I have never been asked such a question. I did have one doctor ask if I stored mine in a safe or kept them out of the reach of curious hands. Well, of course I do!
And for what it's worth, the doctors where I typically go don't even bat an eyelid when I pull a paddle holster off my belt during an examination.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:46:40
by clayinva
Guns in the home? How about, "Not right now. I'm carrying 3 and have more in the car."
MAN, how did we get to this endless PC busybody nanny state?!!?

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 17:56:46
by jdonovan
clayinva wrote:MAN, how did we get to this endless PC busybody nanny state?!!?
Lack of personal accountability and responsibility.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:12:06
by SHMIV
jdonovan wrote:
clayinva wrote:MAN, how did we get to this endless PC busybody nanny state?!!?
Lack of personal accountability and responsibility.
That's it, right there.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:06:39
by Diomed
wylde007 wrote:Doctors offices are private entities and can ask whatever questions they want. The Constitution protects rights of the people from GOVERNMENT intrusion.

You have the right to decline to answer, but you do not have the right not to be offended.
I'd agree, if they weren't putting that info into a database the government can access.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 12:13:01
by wylde007
A-ha. At that point it becomes something more sinister. You still have the right not to answer.

And, since government is not officially "asking", they can access those databases at their leisure. Just another sign of the runaway abuses of government... the government millions support and elect through voluntary participation.

Re: Are there guns in the home?

Posted: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 23:37:00
by Diomed
wylde007 wrote:A-ha. At that point it becomes something more sinister. You still have the right not to answer.
A non-response is the same as a yes. Better to simply lie. You're not under oath (yet), and they're not owed an honest answer to a dishonest question.