Re: Va OK's bill to likely close most abortion clinics
Posted: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:51:50
Like it or not, that is how our government makes laws.Sotiris wrote:And that is exactly why this is not a political issue. Every thing a politician touches, they find ways to mess up.
Um, no. Their stance is that the life is a child so it is entirely consistent that it should be treated as a crime to harm the child, although punishments have varied for that offense. You're coming off as paranoid and a bit rabid here.Sotiris wrote:That double standard should not exist. It does because pro-life people wrote those laws to give their DA more ability to charge pro-choice people. Sure, officially they wrote it to let them charge murderers with an extra count of murder, because more laws always stops criminals, right? (Just like gun control laws work so well, right?)
So by your logic (which it terribly flawed), we should not have any laws against murder period. Of course, to arrive at that conclusion you had to completely twist and pervert the gun law argument, but whatever supports your position, right? No, gun laws don't work because they seek to punish a non-ethical violations which are all lesser than the actual ethical violation. The keeping and bearing of a gun is not the ethical crime, what you do with it may be. Those sort of "preventative ethical" laws never work. Murder is wrong because an actual ethical violation occurred. Gun laws would be like banning coat hangers because they could be used to cause an ethical violation (abortion).
Your average terrorist about to blow up a building could care less about jaywalking...
Again, your sense of what laws are for is horribly warped. Laws are suppose to be there only to regulate ethical violations.Sotiris wrote:Laws can not coerce the few in to following the majority. If they could, then there wouldn't be criminals.
Now you have totally gone off the deep end. What other purpose does government have but to regulate ethical violations? Perhaps you don't understand the difference between ethics and morality? I guess you won't mind if I come steal all your stuff and neither should the government? No, civil society is based on the idea that we create limited force (the government and its agents) to enforce (punish) ethical violations against each other. Where we go all wrong is when we overstep just ethical violations and begin trying to coerce people to do what we want them to do rather than simply regulate their unethical actions against others.Sotiris wrote:Ethically, you are correct. It is a disgusting thing to do(aside from the usual rape/incest/grotesque deformity). However, legislating ethics is right on that line with legislating morality. That should not be for us to judge.
Edit: By your comments I'm guessing you are an anarchist?