Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Bullet number 5 says "a illegal". It should read "an illegal".

Other than that, great job

Great work, Jake!

From a visual appeal standpoint, how would it look to move bullet #4 into the #2 position? And how about making one paragraph out of the two sentences about the gun-unfriendly list on the front? It might compact onto 3 lines and allow a slightly larger font.

Alright I tried moving the bullet points around but found that for me they are easiest to read like this. Also I condensed it to one paragraph and was able to increase the font size a little. You can buy precut business card paper and print these out at home if you wish. I'm planning on doing one for open carry as well. Suggestion on what image and or points I should include?

Looks good Jake!! (5 out of 5)

I just printed these out on some business card stock....

The bad news: the font in the bottom paragraph on the front is too small to read, and the bullet points on the back are pretty small too.

I'm afraid it needs to be reformatted (and probably the content edited down to less info) to really be useful. We can't expect someone to pull out a magnifying glass to read it.

Bummer. Jake, willing to keep it it for another round?

I did some a test print and your right. So I did a little moving and enlarged everything so at this point I can now read it without any issue on card stock but I would like yalls input of course. I also had to edit out some of the bottom paragraph text and change the VGOF emblem to something that is readable.

As we are talking about concealed handguns, I might ditch the AR on the back. Also putting an EBR (evil black rifle) on something we are hoping might sway a merchant to modify their policies, this imagery might not assist us in getting the behavior we want.

If we could slightly shorten a few of the list items on the back of the card so they don't wrap the line by one word, we could fit a few more.

Like what you've done!

- Have passed a criminal Background Check
- Have never been convicted of a felony
- Have completed a level of firearms training
- Have never been convicted of assault or DUI
- Am not a user, nor a distributor of illegal drugs
- Have never been declared legally incompetent

I agree with the "Black Rifle" comment.

Maybe the bullet points would look better if the left margin were lined up instead of centering all of them.

allingeneral wrote:- Have passed a criminal Background Check
- Have never been convicted of a felony
- Have completed a level of firearms training
- Have never been convicted of assault or DUI
- Am not a user, nor a distributor of illegal drugs
- Have never been declared legally incompetent

I agree with the "Black Rifle" comment.

Maybe the bullet points would look better if the left margin were lined up instead of centering all of them.

+1
I think we are almost there....

allingeneral wrote:[attachment=0]CHPcard_back.gif[/attachment]

Alright Unlike that but the VGOF small text isn't legible that's why I changed the logo maybe if I tried the red white and blue logo with the URL underneath?

Jakeiscrazy wrote:

allingeneral wrote:[attachment=0]CHPcard_back.gif[/attachment]

Alright Unlike that but the VGOF small text isn't legible that's why I changed the logo maybe if I tried the red white and blue logo with the URL underneath?

I don't think the small text in the VGOF logo needs to be readable. Perhaps we could shrink the logo slightly smaller and add "www.VGOF.net" text right below it.

I tried the red/white/blue logo and it's not very clear. I like the VGOF to be well pronounced like it is in the "euro sticker" logo.

I thought that we concluded that it was incorrect to state "never been convicted of a DUI"?

To state that would be somewhat misleading, and if the card gets fact checked, that could make us look deceitful or uneducated. Should a business owner get that impression, we may fail to persuade him so see things in our favor.

Since it's space-consuming to clarify the DUI point, perhaps it's best to leave it out entirely.

I also think it's a stretch to say "Never been convicted of a felony" since there are some who have a felony conviction and have had firearms rights restored.

First rule of marketing:
Offset the negative... Accentuate the positive.

allingeneral wrote:I also think it's a stretch to say "Never been convicted of a felony" since there are some who have a felony conviction and have had firearms rights restored.

No it's not because you could say that for everything on the list. Sure there are special cases but they are very rare. If card was built on such cases then it would it would either be blank or be way way to wordy. I would remove the DUI part as that expires by default no judge needed.

newdovo wrote:First rule of marketing:
Offset the negative... Accentuate the positive.

Agree - Perhaps just having something like the below that does not contain any criminal violation or mental incompetency references is a better way to go...

Have passed state and federal background checks [involves mental as well as criminal factors]

Have had firearms training and demonstrated competency with a handgun

not sure how many times it can be viewed, but I think this is a much better design. (I'm biased, I did it)

flame away.

http://www.uprinting.com/easy-preview.h ... 717e2c3178

pattonme wrote:not sure how many times it can be viewed, but I think this is a much better design. (I'm biased, I did it)

flame away.

http://www.uprinting.com/easy-preview.h ... 717e2c3178

Nice work but some of the text is going to be impossible to read when printed. Mostly the stuff on the front. Also DUI free is not a criteria like I first thought it was. Just not in the past five years five years.

Here is AIG's version with the DUI part removed. I would go with his back rather than mine but I haven't haven't a chance to test print yet.