Hi Points

[VAman]

My problem with the SR9 is that it's basically a copy of Glock with a few modifications, only it has some issues. They have had a lot of issues with the barrel peening, among other things. Then for an extra $100 you could just get the Glock that it copied that doesn't have the issues. It's kind of like with the Hi Point. It's not the best, and for $100 more you can get something better. To some people they can't spare the extra $100, to others they can. The SR9 is the same way. For $100 more you can get something a lot better. To some people it's worth it. To some it isn't.

That said, with Ruger at least if you ever do have any sort of problem they are very very good about taking care of you.

[Diomed]

Blac- er, poor people don't deserve to have guns! Ban Hi Points! Ring of Fire! Saturday Night Specials! Junk Guns!



Oh wait, I was channeling a Democrat there. Need to get those old fillings checked...

[Jakeiscrazy]

My problem with the SR9 is that it's basically a copy of Glock with a few modifications, only it has some issues. They have had a lot of issues with the barrel peening, among other things. Then for an extra $100 you could just get the Glock that it copied that doesn't have the issues. It's kind of like with the Hi Point. It's not the best, and for $100 more you can get something better. To some people they can't spare the extra $100, to others they can. The SR9 is the same way. For $100 more you can get something a lot better. To some people it's worth it. To some it isn't.

That said, with Ruger at least if you ever do have any sort of problem they are very very good about taking care of you.

I wouldn't call it a copy. Sure it's polymer frame and has the same trigger style but it has some improvements. Slimmer frame, manual safety added, and a better shorter trigger. You can't just say all ploy frame gun with similar triggers are copies of glocks. There is always going to be something the "for only $100 more" is better.

[RocKor]

To be fair to the Ruger SR9 (and I am no Ruger fanboy), although yes it's a polymer pistol similar in design to the Glock, it has different ergonomics and feels a little slimmer. The factory sights are also adjustable. I like Glocks better but the Ruger SR9 is different enough to warrant it as its own choice and not just a cheaper alternative or copy..

[bk1330]

I have several rugers, smith and wessons, glocks etc. and I have owned a few hi-points .Everyone I had was a great gun as far as reliability. I never had any failure to fires and the only stove pipes were with really cheap ammunition. I just think they are really ugly and way to big if there design department would trim them down some I would probably own one again.

[AlanM]

There is a thread on the Ohioians For Concealed Carry forums that has some good information.

http://www.ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51345
I definitely respect Evan Price's opinion on this subject. He is involved with the industry (range or store I think) and is very knowledgeable. He's opinion of Hi-point guns is quite positive.

[CCFan]

Hey guys!

I was looking at some different pistols and came across and all american made gun for under $200. I have read and checked that they also come with a lifetime warrenty, no questions! I want to know what you guys think about these guns. Are they built to last? Is it a good night stand gun? etc.

Have one (C9) that I've had for years. Built to last? For the most part. I've got over a thousand rounds through it, nothing broken so far. Is it a good night stand gun? I've had some FTE like others have, but never spent the time to determine whether it was a magazine spring, limp wristing it, etc... I've got others that I've never had problems with out of the box, so for me, it was simply an inexpensive firearm. Pretty accurate for the $, but not something I'd trust my life on.

[gunderwood]

There is a thread on the Ohioians For Concealed Carry forums that has some good information.

http://www.ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=51345
I definitely respect Evan Price's opinion on this subject. He is involved with the industry (range or store I think) and is very knowledgeable. He's opinion of Hi-point guns is quite positive.

If you have under $200 to spend on a gun and ammo for home defense and you don't intend to be a regular shooter, if you can't find a good used Smith & Wesson model 10 or some other such revolver, a HIgh Point will get the job done.

That is an awful lot of ifs. Basically if you can't afford anything else and all the better used guns for less than $200 aren't available, a High Point can work. Hardly a glowing recommendation, but it does sum it up well. They serve a particular market, but generally if you can find something else or save up a bit more you're probably better off; if not, you don't have much choice now do you?

[rod]

I had a HighPoint C9 once. The only reason I sold it was because I was trying to get all my handguns down to just a few calibers and 9mm was one I got rid of. The place I bought it at wasn't going to sell it to me unless I had a good reason for buying a clunker like that. I told him I wanted something to throw in my tackle box in case the fish weren't biting. That's exactly what I did with it. I never had any problems with it. It went BANG every time I wanted it to. It was just heavy and ugly.

[Kreutz]

I finally bought one. Couldn't resist lol.

Gonna go to Rocky Mount tomorrow and pick it up, will share my results when I get to fire it. My curiosity got the better of me.

Did some research and couldn't help but notice much of the flak towards the Hi-point line was from people who never owned or fired one, so, why not give it a shot? Its fans seem more believable ("its what you expect") than its detractors ("I knew a guy who knew a guy who shot a hi-point and the slide exploded and lodged in his brain!").

The fact I had to call six local sellers to find one who wasn't sold out was noteworthy.

In the end I got the .45 chamber because I've never owned any handgun that large. I carry a 9mm, but this is strictly for car (or walnut cracking) duty.

I'm also surprised to see .45 ammo costs alot less than I thought, that was something that always kept me away from the round, but its really not that bad, Russian range fodder runs a quarter a round, only 9 cents more than the cheapest 9mm range fodder. As I don't reload the cheap steel stuff works fine for me.

Worse comes to worse it can spend some time at Hi point for free service. Only set me back $175 total.

[mamabearCali]

Well I shall await your report Kruetz. I have considered getting one just to have an additional weapon around the house. When husband I have to go our separate ways during the daytime and often nighttime hours one of us has to be unarmed. So I was thinking of getting one for a cheap home defense weapon. If we have to wait to buy another glock it will likely be Feb before we can get another 36. Which if that is what is needed so be it, but it is kind of a shame that both my husband and my kids can't be protected at all times. Right now we kind of have a rule whoever has the kids has the gun (kind of reverse brady style). But both of us figure if you have the kids there is no way to run only fight. If you don't have the kids you got a chance of the pepper spray/pocket knife/run defense.

[hemifan87]

I have one I have the hi point 9mm and I have had some problems with it jamming but only when I use cheap ammo and when its cold out, but then iv had problems with my taurus 45 my friends 40 and another friends ruger in the cold. Overall its been a good gun and had about 1000+ rounds through it.

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[Kreutz]

Ok, I finally got to shoot this beastly Hi Point 45

The thing is surprisingly accurate. had very tight groups at 7 yards. Also, its sheer weight/mass handles the recoil pretty well, its not as snappy as I thought it would be.

The ergonomics are non-existent, had to really work to find a comfortable grip; good thing I have big hands. Speaking of the grip, its actually a cheap (not a shock) plastic thats slick. Not good. May take some sandpaper to them to give them some coarseness, cant imagine aiming with sweaty hands.

Fed it cheap steel cased Tula ammo, and in 100 rounds, I had 2 FTE. Now, not sure if that was the pistols blowback operation, the strange magazine, or the ammo.

To be fair I had my first ever FTF with the steel cased Tula 9mm in my Taurus today, so I'm inclined to blame this on the ammo. I had no problems shooting 50 rounds of Magtech in the Hi-point. if i have a FTE with better quality ammo I can send it in to get fixed free of charge, no questions asked, so thats good.

Oh yeah, cleaning this thing sucks. Disassembly and reassembly could be easier.

Now, I bought this mainly out of curiosity, and because I want a gun to keep in my glove box. I am not disappointed with this since I bought it with realistic expectations, and it seems to go boom and feed ammo just fine with better quality brass. Its actually a decent gun for what I paid. The key IMO is to buy a hi point with again, realistic expectations. Theyre ugly and cheap, but they do put holes in things just as good as a $700 pistol.

And don't even dream of carrying a hi point 45 concealed...not gonna happen.

[RugerJoe]

I considered buying a Hi Point 45 just to cycle some super crappy cheap ammo through it but I couldn't bring myself to do it. They are just too ugly. I can't allow something that ugly to lay beside my other firearms :l

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[Kreutz]

I considered buying a Hi Point 45 just to cycle some super crappy cheap ammo through it but I couldn't bring myself to do it. They are just too ugly. I can't allow something that ugly to lay beside my other firearms :l

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Keep mine in the glovebox. Plus ugly guns have character!



I like it!

[RugerJoe]

Wow....what is that thing? It looks like a revolver...but...it's confusing me

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[Kreutz]

Wow....what is that thing? It looks like a revolver...but...it's confusing me

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That odd looking fellow sir is the:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba_Autorevolver

The Mateba Model 6 Unica (often known simply as the Mateba or the Mateba Autorevolver) is a semi-automatic revolver, one of only a few such models ever produced. It was developed in Italy and sold by the Mateba company. Emilio Ghisoni is listed as the owner of US Patent #4,712,466 which details the operation of the weapon.

Someone was once selling on of these in Roanoke on VAguntrader, he wanted alot of $ for it though.