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Dems4Guns wrote:

"Jokes, insults, name-calling, off-topic interjections, lies, slander, and insulting the President of the United States, calling the President unAmerican, calling anyone from the left a communist, socialist, pig, etc."

Here is a quote from Obama himself made while he was fund raising in San Francisco in 2008 before the election. I know it is true because I saw the video with sound.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/ ... hobia.html

So the leading liberal in the US chooses to insult gun owners, Christians, Pennsylvanians, Midwesterners and people who live in economically regions. So they respond by showing Obama a lack of respect. See where the cycle began?

No insults here in this message, but I will say that you are known by the company you keep.

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Would somebody please provide me with some (any) evidence of an effective gun control measure that is in effect?

I'll be waiting...

My favorite gun control measure? A firm cheek weld - steady aim - squeeze the trigger - target annihilated!

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dems4guns wrote:NO inquisitioner here has been polite or well-mannered, with perhaps the exception of Zephyp on a good day. OK, enough. We live in America, not Mexico.
Ah, thanks for the compliment and right now is a good day. Oh, how do I define a good day? Well, I do indeed live in America and not Mexico...but a good day is when I hear birds singing and crickets chirping rather than loud mexican diatribe coming from all directions. By this definition how often do I have a good day here at home? Not often...

Cody, ya have to look at this whole thing from the other side. This forum is comprised mainly of citizens who are watching a leftist administration threaten the US with fewer jobs, higher taxes, less rights, more restrictive gun laws, etc, etc, etc. Anyone, even trying to be friendly and sharing some beliefs, associating themselves with the current administration is viewed as one of them. Having said that, there are a couple professed liberals here who avoid the political discussion and engage in gun discussions and they fit in since they dont constantly advertise their affiliations with political discussion. If you want to engage in meaningful discussions about firearm topics then lean more in that direction with much less focus on politics. Just sayin.
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Still waiting for a single attempt at explaining how you support the likes of Chuck U. Shumer, Feinstein, Obama and his SCrOTUS nominations and yet CLAIM to support firearms freedoms.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

You have ignored my many invitations for you to do so, no matter how daintily I presented them, so as not to offend your tender sensibilities.

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Tweaker wrote:Still waiting for a single attempt at explaining how you support the likes of Chuck U. Shumer, Feinstein, Obama and his SCrOTUS nominations and yet CLAIM to support firearms freedoms.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

You have ignored my many invitations for you to do so, no matter how daintily I presented them, so as not to offend your tender sensibilities.

YOU ARE A COWARD AND A TANTRUM THROWING MENTAL MIDGET
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I'm still waiting for evidence of an effective gun control measure that has actually stopped crime!

I'm thinking that it's going to be a long wait. :coffee:
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Yarddawg wrote: I'm still waiting for evidence of an effective gun control measure that has actually stopped crime!

I'm thinking that it's going to be a long wait. :coffee:
UK banned guns and had they had a momentary lull then criminals figured out pointy kitchen knives made great weapons and crime shot up again. Then they banned pointy kitchen knives... :whistle:
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Jakeiscrazy wrote:Yada Yada Yada......................

We have all seen this act before. "Liberals want personal freedom." expect when it comes to my choice to not buy health care or my chioce to own a "assault weapon". I realize you yourself may not be for these registions of freedoms, but your friends are.

The "Liberals for Guns" thing is getting old. At some point your going to have a make a choice at the polls. Do you vote for the conservative supporting gun rights, or the liberal aginst them? If you vote for the liberal you are NOT a supporter of gun rights.
You just don't get it....political influence is much more subtle than that. For one thing, it is clear that the political center supports gun rights, BUT the political center also supports abortion rights and medicaid and social security and AFDC and unemployment benefits. It is not a black and white decision. Once Democrats are in office they are often willing to barter support for gun liberalization with their favorite legislation. That is how it works...and it works both ways.

Even with Obama's medical care, you still have the FREEDOM to choose any doctor you wish to choose....insurance will not pay for it, but nothing is stopping your choice.

You don't know my friends, so please don't prejudge. That is one of the primary points here is that people here generalize that liberals and democrats are all the same, when WE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME!....for the last time.

Also, Democrats in Virginia are supporting guns rights because they want to be in the political middle.
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allingeneral wrote:Unfortunately, although you may be a liberal who wants to see firearms laws relaxed, the party that you are allied to is completely and totally against you.

Let's say that you, a liberal, happen to become a US senator. You have viewpoints about gun laws that the leadership of the Democratic part will not allow. If you try to buck their system by voting the way you truly feel, you will be black-balled and run out of town.

Anyone who wants to see gun laws "liberalized" is foolish to vote for a democrat (generally speaking).
Harry Reid, Democratic Leader of the Senate is a strong pro-gun advocate:
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http://democratsforgunownership.org/

http://bluesteeldemocrats.blogspot.com/

http://rightdemocrat.blogspot.com/

You are wrong about the FACTS of Democrats who hold traditionally conservative positions. But really, gun liberalization is closer to home that most issues because we like Personal Freedoms. Gun rights gives us more personal freedoms.
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CCFan wrote:
dems4guns wrote:
It's not the Dems whining here....its the gun owners whining about gun control. What a hypocrite!

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And this, coming from someone who wants MORE laws on the books.... :hysterical:

Is it just me or does this strike anyone else as one of those mutually exclusive situations? More laws equal more freedoms? How exactly does that work? I'm just a dumb right-winger hillbilly, apparently...
Please don't misrepresent my positions:
I want gun liberalization. That would include a combination of amending the laws that are active today and POSSIBLY new laws, but more than likely amending the ones we have today.

It's not that hard to figure out: Laws that were passed outline how the State and local jurisdictions regulate the possession, purchase and use of deadly weapons. Creating new laws is not that easy because existing laws have to be revised or amended or in some cases rescinded.

I have proposed legislation that would require commercial property owners that allow public parking to allow storage of firearms in locked vehicles per the existing rules for gun possession inside a private vehicle.

That would likely be amending the existing laws.
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wally626 wrote:There are certainly a few Democrats that are pro gun rights. The NRA supports these Democrats in general elections. The problem comes in the courts. Currently the liberals do not have enough votes in Congress to get anti-gun bills passed, but they do have enough support in the courts to get things done the way they want. We currently have a 5-4 split on the Supreme Court in regards to gun rights. The lower courts even with the Heller decision are trying to limit the 2nd amendment rights as much as possible (well except Puerto Rico). We hope these reverses in the district and appeals courts will make it to the Supreme Court before one of the pro votes retires or dies. The pro gun Democrat Senators have not shown any reluctance to voting for obvious anti-gun nominees in the past, I do not see that changing. At the local level the Democrats in the State Senate have stalled many very good pro-gun bills in the last couple of years. They do not have enough power to kill everything, so some liberation has occurred. Even if the particular senators that are troublesome can not be defeated, due to heavily liberal districts, their buddies in more conservative areas can. If the Republicans retake the Senate these Senators have almost no power left. For that reason I would vote for a republican over a democrat almost always.
The real problem is the stupid rule that allows ANY Senator to block the appointment of ANY person who the President recommends for judgeships or adminstrative positions. That rule needs to go. Then, with Harry Reid in charge, pro-gun judges and appointments would be endorsed.
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dems4guns wrote:...Democrats in Virginia are supporting guns rights because they want to be in the political middle.
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Like the Senate Courts of Justice special subcommittee did in March last year?

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/read.aspx?id=5517
Below is the list of bills defeated by the Special Sub-Committee:

House Bill 26, authored by Delegate Thomas Wright (R-61), would have prohibited the Clerk of the Court from requiring an applicant for a concealed handgun permit to provide any documentation or information not authorized by the law or prescribed by Virginia State Police.

House Bill 49, sponsored by Delegate Scott Lingamfelter (R-31), would have repealed the antiquated gun rationing law, commonly referred to as, “one-gun-a-month”.

House Bill 52, sponsored by Delegate Mark Cole (R-88), would have allowed a court to waive the $25 dollar fine upon presentation of the permit to the court, if a person failed to display his concealed carry permit when requested by a law-enforcement officer.

House Bill 79, sponsored by Delegate R. Lee Ware (R-65), would have prohibited the Clerk of Court from publicly disclosing concealed handgun permit application information, unless the permittee had provided written consent for the release of the application or information. The information would have still been available to law-enforcement acting in the performance of their duties.

House Bill 108, also introduced by Delegate Cole (R-88), would have prohibited agents of localities or localities themselves from participating in “gun buy-backs” unless the governing body of such a locality authorizes such a program. The locality would then have the option of selling the firearms by auction to a federally licensed dealer (FFL) or disposing of the firearm in any other appropriate manner.

House Bill 171, authored by Delegate Brenda Pogge (R-96), would have prohibited property owners, employers, or a business entity from establishing or enforcing any policy that would prohibit a person who may lawfully possess a firearm, from storing a firearm in a locked motor vehicle in a publicly accessible parking lot.

House Bill 236, sponsored by Delegate Bill Janis (R-56), would have removed the prohibition imposed by localities on hunting within a half-mile of subdivisions.

House Bill 490, sponsored by Delegate Scott Lingamfelter (R-31), would have directed the Department of State Police, in cooperation with the Secretary of Public Safety, to develop a plan to allow the State Police to issue lifetime concealed handgun permits to Virginia residents.

House Bill 870, sponsored by Delegate Benjamin Cline (R-24), would have repealed the language that allows localities to fingerprint applicants for a concealed handgun permit.

House Bill 1070, sponsored by Delegate Clay Athey (R-18), would have provided that a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit could not be barred from carrying a concealed handgun in any place or facility designated or used by the Governor, any political subdivision of the Commonwealth, or any other governmental entity as an emergency shelter or for the purpose of sheltering persons.
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@dems4guns - the position you defend is untenable. Essentially the same as telling everybody that they should be happy since the cage is clean and the bars are pure gold. Could be but its still a cage.

Regarding health care - your statement about still being able to choose your own doctor is pitiful. Its not about health care or doctors or cost of medical care....its about the federal government mandating that I as a private citizen must purchase something or pay a penalty....thats a big line they crossed. Whats next?
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Tweaker wrote:Still waiting for a single attempt at explaining how you support the likes of Chuck U. Shumer, Feinstein, Obama and his SCrOTUS nominations and yet CLAIM to support firearms freedoms.

DOES NOT COMPUTE

You have ignored my many invitations for you to do so, no matter how daintily I presented them, so as not to offend your tender sensibilities.

YOU ARE A COWARD AND A TANTRUM THROWING MENTAL MIDGET
News Flash!!! The political world is not black and white. There are a billion shades of gray. I know you would like to make it simple, but its not.

News Flash!!!! Politicians can change their minds and support gun liberalization, including the ones named above.

But continue to insult them and alienate them and propose extremist views and you will get nowhere.

Insults will get you nowhere....didn't your momma teach you that?

Insults indicate you have no substance to your position, so rather than making a rational argument you insult people instead.

Here in Virginia, we expect you to have MANNERS and be NEIGHBORLY.

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zephyp wrote:@dems4guns - the position you defend is untenable. Essentially the same as telling everybody that they should be happy since the cage is clean and the bars are pure gold. Could be but its still a cage.

Regarding health care - your statement about still being able to choose your own doctor is pitiful. Its not about health care or doctors or cost of medical care....its about the federal government mandating that I as a private citizen must purchase something or pay a penalty....thats a big line they crossed. Whats next?
No different than requiring you have car insurance. In Virginia if you don't get insurance you must pay a $600 uninsured motorist fee.

In most states there are penalties for not holding car insurance.

Other examples too, but that is the most similar.
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dems4guns wrote:
zephyp wrote:@dems4guns - the position you defend is untenable. Essentially the same as telling everybody that they should be happy since the cage is clean and the bars are pure gold. Could be but its still a cage.

Regarding health care - your statement about still being able to choose your own doctor is pitiful. Its not about health care or doctors or cost of medical care....its about the federal government mandating that I as a private citizen must purchase something or pay a penalty....thats a big line they crossed. Whats next?
No different than requiring you have car insurance. In Virginia if you don't get insurance you must pay a $600 uninsured motorist fee.

In most states there are penalties for not holding car insurance.

Other examples too, but that is the most similar.
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Big big difference sport. One is federal government and the other is state government. Read the Constitution. Congress has enumerated powers which dont include mandating that I buy anything. Please see the 10th Amendment that says powers not specifically granted to congress are granted to the states.

Its a matter of Constitutionality....federal government mandating I buy anything is unconstitutional...state mandating I buy car insurance is not...
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dems4guns wrote:
No different than requiring you have car insurance. In Virginia if you don't get insurance you must pay a $600 uninsured motorist fee.

In most states there are penalties for not holding car insurance.

Other examples too, but that is the most similar.
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Big HUGE difference. I only have to buy car insurance if I choose to own a car (and all the is required is a policy to protect others not myself). It is not required of anyone who does not own a car. I am perfectly free to have a bike/use public transportation/walk and not ever pay a cent to the state or to any car insurance policy. This would require anyone 18 and up that fogs a mirror to pay for a service that they may or may not use.
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dems4guns wrote:Insults will get you nowhere....didn't your momma teach you that?

Insults indicate you have no substance to your position, so rather than making a rational argument you insult people instead.

Here in Virginia, we expect you to have MANNERS and be NEIGHBORLY.

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Insults, manners, and neighborly...Just like the title of this thread? :whistle:

Still no answer to my question, could it be that you cannot provide any examples?

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You finally answered how you can love Chucky and Feinstein and Obunghole and it is that they MAY change their minds and STOP TERMINATING OUR CIVIL RIGHTS!?!!?

You are an incorrigible and ignorant child. May you die on your knees, as you will clearly not fight for anything.
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dems4guns wrote:
allingeneral wrote:Unfortunately, although you may be a liberal who wants to see firearms laws relaxed, the party that you are allied to is completely and totally against you.

Let's say that you, a liberal, happen to become a US senator. You have viewpoints about gun laws that the leadership of the Democratic part will not allow. If you try to buck their system by voting the way you truly feel, you will be black-balled and run out of town.

Anyone who wants to see gun laws "liberalized" is foolish to vote for a democrat (generally speaking).
Harry Reid, Democratic Leader of the Senate is a strong pro-gun advocate:
http://media.lasvegassun.com/media/pdfs ... Letter.pdf

http://democratsforgunownership.org/

http://bluesteeldemocrats.blogspot.com/

http://rightdemocrat.blogspot.com/

You are wrong about the FACTS of Democrats who hold traditionally conservative positions. But really, gun liberalization is closer to home that most issues because we like Personal Freedoms. Gun rights gives us more personal freedoms.
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Let's look at Harry:
1. June 28, 1991—Voted for a 5 day waiting period for handgun purchases (Vote No. 115).
2. November 19, 1993—Voted to eliminate the five-year sunset in the Brady Bill's five day waiting period, which would have made the waiting period permanent (Vote No. 386).
3. November 19, 1993—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Brady Bill (Vote No. 387).
4. November 20, 1993—Voted for the Brady Bill, which imposed a 5-day waiting period before purchasing a handgun (Vote No. 394).
5. August 25, 1994—Voted to end a filibuster led by pro-gun Senators against the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called "assualt weapons ban; Vote No. 294).
6. August 25, 1994—Voted for the Clinton Crime Bill, which contained the ban on many semi-automatic firearms (the so-called "assault weapons" ban; Vote No. 295).
7. April 17, 1996—Voted to expand the statute of limitations for paperwork violations in the National Firearms Act from 3 years to 5 years (Vote No. 64).
8. June 27, 1996—Voted to destroy 176,000 M-1 Garand rifles from World War II, and 150 million rounds of .30 caliber ammunition, rather than giving them to the Federal Civilian Marksmanship program (Vote No. 178).
9. September 12, 1996—Voted to spend $21.5 million for a study on putting "taggants" in black and smokeless gunpowder (Vote No. 287).
10. September 12, 1996—Voted to make it a Federal crime to possess a gun within 1,000 feet of any school, private or public, and impose a 5-year prison sentence for violating the law (Vote No. 290).
11. July 28, 1998—Voted against killing an amendment offered by Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) to prohibit the importation of firearm magazines holding over 10 rounds that were manufactured before the 1994 ban was enacted (Vote No. 240).
12. May 12, 1999—Voted to ban the private sales of firearms at gun shows unless buyers submitted to background registration checks. Draconian restrictions would have also been imposed on gun show promoters, expanding federal authority in this area (Vote No. 111).
13. May 13, 1999—Voted to ban the importation of ammunition magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds (Vote No. 116).
14. May 14, 1999—Voted for an amendment introduced by Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) that would regulate the transfer of firearms over the Internet (Vote No. 119).
15. May 18, 1999—Voted for an amendment to force gun sellers to include trigger locks with every handgun sold (Vote No. 122).
16. May 20, 1999—Voted for legislation to subject repair shop and pawn shop transactions to the same registration and background check requirements as purchases from dealers—even if a person was reclaiming his own firearm (Vote No. 133).
17. May 20, 1999—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) that would ban private sales at gun shows, unless the buyer first submits to a background registration check. Even displaying a firearm at a gun show, and subsequently transferring that gun to a non-licensee, would result in a two-year prison sentence. The amendment would also have granted BATF open-ended inspection authority to harass vendors at gun shows, and explicitly gives BATF the right to keep a gun owner registration list for up to 90 days. This amendment passed 51-50, with Vice President Al Gore breaking the tie (Vote No. 134).
18. May 20, 1999—Voted for the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill, which contained a host of gun control provisions (Vote No. 140).
19. July 28, 1999—Voted to end a filibuster on the Clinton Juvenile Justice bill. The filibuster was led by Sen. Bib Smith (R-NH) because of concerns with the gun control provisions in the bill (Vote No. 224).
20. February 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) to help the cities bring frivolous suits against gun makers (Vote No. 4).
21. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Charles Schumer (D-NY) blaming school violence on the fact that Congress "failed to pass reasonable, common-sense gun control measures" and call for new gun ownership restrictions on the anniversary of the Columbine shootings (Vote No. 28).
22. March 2, 2000—Voted to use Federal taxpayer funds to hand out anti-gun literature in schools and to run anti-gun public service announcements (Vote No. 32).
23. April 6, 2000—Voted for and cosponsored a "sense of the Senate" amendment urging the passage of new gun control restrictions (Vote No. 64).
24. March 2, 2000—Voted for an amendment offered by Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) urging the passage of the ant-gun juvenile crime bill being opposed by GOA (Vote No. 28).
25. April 10, 2000—Voted for a non-binding amendment offered by Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) urging the House-Senate conferees to get the juvenile anti-gun bill to the floor of each chamber by April 20 (Vote No. 64).
26. May 17, 2000—Voted with 29 other F-rated Senators against an amendment stating "the right of each law-abiding United States citizen to own a firearm for any legitimate purpose, including self-defense or recreation, should not be infringed." (Vote No. 103).
27. May 17, 2000—Voted for a resolution praising the participants of the so-called Million Mom March, and calling on Congress to pass the anti-gun juvenile crime bill that GOA was fighting (Vote No. 104).
28. April 2, 2001—Voted for the Incumbent Protection Act, so-called campaign finance reform (Vote No. 64).
29. March 20, 2002—Voted to end a filibuster of the odious Incumbent Protection bill. The blatantly unconstitutional legislation squelches the voice of groups like Gun Owners of America in the final days before an election. By making it difficult, if not impossible, for groups to criticize the anti-gun actions of legislators prior to an election, incumbents are able to duck accountability for those actions (Vote No. 53).
30. February 26, 2004—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need. In addition, the amendment would create a broad cause of action against gun owners who fail to actually use the storage device to lock up their firearms (Vote No. 17).
31. March 2, 2004—Voted to outlaw the private sale of firearms at gun shows unless the buyer agrees to submit to an FBI background registration check. This legislative would have effectively eliminated gun shows because of stringent requirements placed on event sponsors (Vote No. 25).
32. July 28, 2005—Voted for an amendment to require all handgun purchasers to pay an implicit "gun tax" by requiring them to buy a trigger lock when they purchase their handgun, irrespective of need (Vote No. 207).
33. September 29, 2005—Voted against John Roberts for Supreme Court Justice. Roberts' record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 245).
34. January 18, 2007—Voted against an amendment to strike language in a bill that would infringe upon the free speech rights of groups like GOA by requiring them to monitor and report on communications with members, and could easily have led to government demands for organizational membership list (a.k.a. registration) (Vote No. 17).
35. January 31, 2006—Voted against Samuel Alito for Supreme Court Justice. Justice Alito's record and testimony to the Senate show that he is strong advocate for Second Amendment rights. Had Reid's position prevailed on this vote, the 5-4 decisions in Heller and McDonald could have gone the other way (Vote No. 2) .
36. February 2, 2009—Voted to confirm Eric Holder as Attorney General. Holder was an anti-Second Amendment official for the Clinton administration, and has called for a renewal of the Clinton gun ban (Vote No. 32).
37. March 19, 2009—Voted to massively expand the amount of land covered by the National Parks gun ban. As Majority Leader, Reid frustrated the efforts of pro-gun Senator Tom Coburn (R-OK) for more than a year to repeal the gun ban. Sen. Coburn's position ultimately prevailed after overcoming Reid's opposition later in 2009 (Vote No. 106).
38. June 25, 2009—Voted to confirm Harold Koh as Legal Advisor to the Department of State. GOA warned all Senators that Koh is a radical globalist pushing for worldwide gun control regulation, including the UN Treaty on Small Arms (Vote No. 213).
39. August 6, 2009—Voted to confirm Sonya Sotomayor as Supreme Court Justice. GOA warned all Senators that Judge Sotomayor's record on gun rights was one of hostility to the Second Amendment, which was born out in her dissent in the McDonald decision (Vote No. 262).
40. September 9, 2009—Voted to confirm Cass Sunstein as Administrator of Regulatory Affairs (Regulatory Czar). GOA notified all Senators that Cass Sunstein is a radical leftist who would like to ban hunting and give animals some of the same rights as humans in the courtroom (Vote No. 273).
41. December 24, 2009—Reid used his position as Majority Leader to pass the ObamaCare legislation. This bill will allow the BATFE and FBI to troll through the ObamaCare database for gun owners who would be disqualified because of their medical information (Vote No. 396).
42. HARRY REID WILL CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST GUNS UNTIL HE IS DEFEATED!

Sure yeah he is about as pro gun as the Brady campaign.
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Re: RightWingers Only Interested in Trashing Dems/Liberals

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dems4guns wrote: .........Also, Democrats in Virginia are supporting guns rights because they want to be in the political middle.
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