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Got to watch out for bad holsters though...

http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firea ... ischarges/

Chasbo00 wrote:Got to watch out for bad holsters though...

http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firea ... ischarges/

LOL. No man made device will ever compensate for negligence or stupidity. Not even a real safety can do that!

Glock 25 Cent Trigger Job... If i'm correct, this is not changing the components of your Glock at all. Its simply Buffing a component of the trigger assembly so it operates more smoothly, making the trigger pull easier. The video i saw on youtube(which i never trust, which is why i'm asking you) the guy said he took his trigger pull from the orginial 5.5 lbs to a 4.something(4.3 IIRC) just from the 25 cent trigger job he performed.

My questions are: Can performing this operation really improve my glock that much? Have you heard anything bad about this? Do you suggest this be done?

Thanks

You can make a decent improvement with a trigger job. I prefer just to purchase a Ghost trigger or similar. IMHO it's easier to swap a part than worry about if I did it right, particularly on a cc gun.

The 25 cent trigger job is going to give you a smoother pull that is a little lighter than before. It mainly gets rid of the grittiness that's usually present in Glock triggers until a couple of thousand rounds or so. What really lightens a Glock trigger's pull weight is a minus connector (aka 3.5 or 4.5 connector) and a lighter firing pin spring. A lighter firing pin safety spring helps a little too as does a modified firing pin safety with a more gentle slope.

I strongly recommend against changing the spring weights or the firing pin safety on anything other than a competition only gun though as the gun's reliability is reduced.

Here is a Glock parts diagram that shows the parts I've addressed:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... CBwQ9QEwAA

gunderwood wrote:You can make a decent improvement with a trigger job. I prefer just to purchase a Ghost trigger or similar. IMHO it's easier to swap a part than worry about if I did it right, particularly on a cc gun.

I totally agree, plus i don't trust myself to do such actions. I saw a video that showed a guy shaving something off of his Gen4 trigger assembly because he said it added a pound and the gen 3 didn't have it so why does he need it on his gen 4.. Not what i would do, but whatever floats your boat and if your confident that you know what your doing then more power to ya.

Chasbo00 wrote:The 25 cent trigger job is going to give you a smoother pull that is a little lighter than before. It mainly gets rid of the grittiness that's usually present in Glock triggers until a couple of thousand rounds or so. What really lightens a Glock trigger's pull weight is a minus connector (aka 3.5 or 4.5 connector) and a lighter firing pin spring. A lighter firing pin safety spring helps a little too as does a modified firing pin safety with a more gentle slope.

I strongly recommend against changing the spring weights or the firing pin safety on anything other than a competition only gun though as the gun's reliability is reduced.

Here is a Glock parts diagram that shows the parts I've addressed:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... CBwQ9QEwAA

For someone who is just using their weapon for CC, are these performance parts worth getting or are these intended for people who are shooting in matches? And i understand personal preference over trigger squeezes, i'm just asking in general.

Thanks again!

HotBrass wrote: For someone who is just using their weapon for CC, are these performance parts worth getting or are these intended for people who are shooting in matches? And i understand personal preference over trigger squeezes, i'm just asking in general.

As you state, it's largely a matter of personal preference. I tinker with my competition guns all the time. But, I generally leave my carry guns stock. If the trigger is really rough, I may do some polishing. If you want to give the 25 cent trigger job a try, but you are worried about taking off metal and changing something you should not, use q-tips with Flitz or a similar polish and leave the Dremel tool unplugged. It will take a while, but this is the really safe way to do it. Most folks who try the 25 cent trigger job for the first time are disappointed in how little it changes things.

Chasbo00 wrote: As you state, it's largely a matter of personal preference. I tinker with my competition guns all the time. But, I generally leave my carry guns stock. If the trigger is really rough, I may do some polishing. If you want to give the 25 cent trigger job a try, but you are worried about taking off metal and changing something you should not, use q-tips with Flitz or a similar polish and leave the Dremel tool unplugged. It will take a while, but this is the really safe way to do it. Most folks who try the 25 cent trigger job for the first time are disappointed in how little it changes things.

Thanks for the input, mine is almost brand new and its not rough at all i personally think the trigger is fine. I'm just curious if i want to experiment with change. Grandpa always said "Don't fix what ain't broke", i think i should just get another one and tinker with it and experiment. Then figure out what i like the best. Now for the WORST PART, telling the wife i want another toy!

HotBrass wrote: Thanks for the input, mine is almost brand new and its not rough at all i personally think the trigger is fine. I'm just curious if i want to experiment with change. Grandpa always said "Don't fix what ain't broke", i think i should just get another one and tinker with it and experiment. Then figure out what i like the best. Now for the WORST PART, telling the wife i want another toy!

Now I don't want to deprive you of the opportunity for a new gun, but... One of the great things about Glocks is that their parts are relatively dirt cheap. You can build a whole separate drop-in trigger assembly for your Glock that has a different connector and trigger spring for about $30. Another $10 will get you a lighter weight firing pin spring and firing pin safety spring - you can change these out in about 4 minutes. So, for roughly $40 to $50 you can experiment all you want and still keep your stock configuration with only about a 5 minute change-over. Just one minute or less if you only change the trigger assembly.

Chasbo00 wrote: You can build a whole separate drop-in trigger assembly for your Glock that has a different connector and trigger spring for about $30.

I'm a bit optimistic above - cost is more like $45 today.

Either way, i didn't know it was that cheap and i didn't have to mess with my original. If i can build one that just drops in without compromising my factory trigger assembly, thats worth trying rather than fighting the queen for a new one.

Obviously i know how to field strip for cleaning, but i've never gone any further than that. Honestly i'm a little scared to, i was the kid that could never put the puzzle back together and my lego's HA! forget about it, lol. Are there any books or videos you recomend? i've seen the videos on youtube, but they move too fast and i can't see what their doing or they instruct you to remove the flux copasitor from the transient illuminatior and i have no idea what their talking about. i need a beginners step by step instruction.

HotBrass wrote: Obviously i know how to field strip for cleaning, but i've never gone any further than that. Honestly i'm a little scared to, i was the kid that could never put the puzzle back together and my lego's HA! forget about it, lol. Are there any books or videos you recomend? i've seen the videos on youtube, but they move too fast and i can't see what their doing or they instruct you to remove the flux copasitor from the transient illuminatior and i have no idea what their talking about. i need a beginners step by step instruction.

Unfortunately, I don't know of any free instructional documents on Glock detailed disassembly and reassembly. If you are not comfortable detail stripping your Glock, then I recommend you find someone who is who can give you some hands-on help - preferably a certified Glock armorer. Completely taking apart a Glock is not difficult, but you can damage some parts if you don't know how to do it properly. You should be able to find a Glock armorer near where you live that will help you put together a drop-in trigger assembly and show you how to disassemble/reassemble a Glock at a reasonable cost. Glock armorers are plentiful, most gun stores have one, plus lots of gun hobbyists are also certified Glock armorers. A Glock armorer can order parts directly from the factory at reduced prices and armorer labor fees are well below what most gunsmiths charge.

Try this: http://www.parts.cc/glock/disassembly/

It's rather simple.

gunderwood wrote:Try this: http://www.parts.cc/glock/disassembly/

It's rather simple.

Awesome, exactly what i needed. Much apprieciated Gunderwood!

For all else - The first page is just the basic breakdown, but if you click "Go to the first step" then it will also offer slide and frame breakdowns which is what i was looking for.

Your welcome.

Does anyone have any feedback on Truglo Fiber Optic Sights? Did you like them, did they work well, if not what sights do you use? They have a pair at glockstore.com that are $69.99 and i'm thinking about making my first accessory upgrade.

I own, carry and regularly shoot my Gen 3 Glock 30 SF. I've probably shot 2000 rounds thru it in the last year with ONE FTE and that was the first shot after a complete teardown after I purchased it. I probably didn't have something perfectly aligned or seated. After that, never a problem since. I never was really a Glock Hater, just never wanted one. Then I shot a friends G30 and got one the following week. All I can say is, I've never had a misfire, never had a KB and can cloverleaf shots at 7 yds. I've not shot a lot of 45's but I will continue trusting and shooting this one for a long time. Just my $.02 from an actual Glock owner and shooter.

I own one pistol, a Glock 36, for both home defense and concealed carry. My first was a Glock 27. While I carried it frequently, there were times that I couldn't easily conceal it because of its thickness. The 36 doesn't sound like it's that much thinner, but it's enough that it makes the difference for me. I haven't fired it much in the few years that I've owned it, but I have yet to see it hiccup. I fire Remington UMC 185gr. for practice and Federal 165gr. EFMJs for defense.

CombatVet wrote:I instinctivly wanted a .45 also, mainly because thats what i grew up shooting. I was planning on getting a G21 until i held it today at Green Top. IMO its too big and bulky if your going to carry with it, which is what i'm interested in right now, i still plan on getting a glock in .45, just not today. I ended up getting a G23, it feels amazing in my hand. I plan on taking it to the range this weekend and seeing how she really performs.

I have had a 21, 36, 27, and the one I kept is my 23. I will never get rid of that gun. I bought a sig 229 but it is heavy. For the very hot days or no no placed, I just purchased an LCP.
Love love love my 23 though.

I have a G26 for carry and love it. I will probably be picking up a 19 or 17 here in the near future.