Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Hmm...yeah, you got me on that, too...we probably oughta consult new House Minority Leader Pelosi on that one...if she'd even bother responding to us "mere citizens".

Hey, waitasec: I just realized we just made this into a waissist thread! Cool! Hey Tweaker, come on and join in--I'm now an officially outed waissist!

CowboyT wrote:Hmm...yeah, you got me on that, too...we probably oughta consult new House Minority Leader Pelosi on that one...if she'd even bother responding to us "mere citizens".

Hey, waitasec: I just realized we just made this into a waissist thread! Cool! Hey Tweaker, come on and join in--I'm now an officially outed waissist!

gunderwood wrote:

zephyp wrote:

CowboyT wrote:That's assuming one doesn't practice and therefore can't shoot. In that case, get a compact semi-auto. You can get 10+ rounds in some of those.

"It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian."

Dagnabit...I knew somebody would sooner or later get around to batting Indians around...

Thats not very tolerant of you. Does this make CowboyT a racist or a bigot or both? I don't know the Democrat rules for this sort of thing.

Not very tolerant of me? I be the one with Injun blood...great grandmother was Creek...

Shame that you did not get more of her blood, then maybe you would see more of them thar deer in the wood's.
Bill

SgtBill wrote:Shame that you did not get more of her blood, then maybe you would see more of them thar deer in the wood's.
Bill

Yes, cant help that...they all been hiding pretty good...maybe I should give some war whoops...

zephyp wrote:

SgtBill wrote:Shame that you did not get more of her blood, then maybe you would see more of them thar deer in the wood's.
Bill

Yes, cant help that...they all been hiding pretty good...maybe I should give some war whoops...

Act like you are squirrel hunting.

Tried that. Didn't work. Needed more Cherokee that day.

Pretty girl: "HOW."
Indian Chief: "Hell, honey, I know HOW...WHEN?"

gunderwood wrote:

zephyp wrote:

SgtBill wrote:Shame that you did not get more of her blood, then maybe you would see more of them thar deer in the wood's.
Bill

Yes, cant help that...they all been hiding pretty good...maybe I should give some war whoops...

Act like you are squirrel hunting.

Yeah but then you dont even see squirrels...

I seen YOU and HENRY, so how can y'all say that. LOL
Bill

Hey, I know I'm a little nutty...especially trying to buy land in a place like Keysville...at least thats what Young says...

Smart lady

Hey I'm really trying to get some property down there. I'll never hear the end of it if she thinks you agree with her...

Sold a Ruger revolver in 327 recently 8 shot client LOVES IT

Never bought a gun I didn't like...

I just bought that Ruger GP100 in .357 but the .327 SP101 still talks to me....

Still want a lever action in this caliber...

The commonly quoted ratio is 30% of shots are good hits. 70% are misses or poor hits (i.e. nicks or trivial wounds). The average number of shots fired for one assailant to stop the attack is approximately the total capacity of a revolver. The average number of shots for multiple assailants is much more. I don't recall the numbers exactly, but you get the gist.

Not sure where you are getting this data, but my stuff comes from the FBI. They collect shooting data on all LEO shootings. And this data is more horrible then yours. Cops have a 17 % success rate in their shooting encounters. Don't think FBI compiles civilian shooting data, but I may be wrong. I have a pain in my butt trying to get more training for my deputies and have an on going battle with supervision.

Now as to the .327 mag. One of my off duty carry guns is a Ruger LCR in .357 mag. I am using Golden Sabre rounds. This is the round my department uses for our duty guns, H&K USP 40. I find no reason to switch, but the .327 is a developing a good rep in performance. My friends who have a gun in this caliber are always complaining about the lack of ammo! Even supplies for reloaders is getting hard to get.

Lawfullarry wrote:

The commonly quoted ratio is 30% of shots are good hits. 70% are misses or poor hits (i.e. nicks or trivial wounds). The average number of shots fired for one assailant to stop the attack is approximately the total capacity of a revolver. The average number of shots for multiple assailants is much more. I don't recall the numbers exactly, but you get the gist.

Not sure where you are getting this data, but my stuff comes from the FBI. They collect shooting data on all LEO shootings. And this data is more horrible then yours. Cops have a 17 % success rate in their shooting encounters. Don't think FBI compiles civilian shooting data, but I may be wrong. I have a pain in my butt trying to get more training for my deputies and have an on going battle with supervision.

You're right about the FBI stats. I don't recall who came up with the 30/70 approx. for civilian SD (read it somewhere), but I'd guess that it was being generous and/or suggesting that for civilian SD the engagement ranges are likely much shorter on average, which should yield more hits in theory. I.e. in a bad situation a civilian looks to leave the area and fights only when that isn't possible. LE is different.

Lawfullarry wrote:

Now as to the .327 mag. One of my off duty carry guns is a Ruger LCR in .357 mag. I am using Golden Sabre rounds. This is the round my department uses for our duty guns, H&K USP 40. I find no reason to switch, but the .327 is a developing a good rep in performance. My friends who have a gun in this caliber are always complaining about the lack of ammo! Even supplies for reloaders is getting hard to get.

I take it they don't want to shoot lead bullets in their reloads? If they can't find the .327, can they find the .32 Magnum, or the .32 Long/Short? A lot of the people who were worried about the .327 ammo supply didn't even think about the shorter cartridges it was based on. Just a suggestion.

Jim

So, I picked up a .327 SP101 - and promptly have to ship it back. One of the chambers in the cylinder has imperfections in it, and it's sticking - a nice long streak on the sides (almost exactly 180 degrees apart) of the fired cartridge case. I didn't see it after the first 6 through it, but after tapping it out and dropping 6 more in, and seeing the 2nd case after firing the next 6, I found it. Called 'em, and back it goes. Not exactly happy about that, but I hear that it happens from time to time...